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Old April 3, 2009, 05:40 PM   #1
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argintine mauser questions

would like to learn about these guns. I think the caliber is 7.62. a relative of mine has bought one with matching numbers. It is a neat gun. If you have any info I would appreciate any info.
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Old April 3, 2009, 05:59 PM   #2
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A simple google for Argentine Mauser will get you about a half a day reading.
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Old April 3, 2009, 06:28 PM   #3
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the Argentine mausers were originally in 7.65... not the 7.62. Great rifles none the less.
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Old April 3, 2009, 07:24 PM   #4
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There were two basic Argentine Mauser rifles.

The first was the Model 1891, which has an external magazine assembly and is based on the Mauser small ring action.

The second was the Model 1909, which is an internal magazine rifle based on the Mauser 1898 large ring action design.

Both were made as rifles and carbines, and both were extremely high quality firearms, especially for military arms.
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Old April 3, 2009, 09:11 PM   #5
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The Argentine Mausers are very high quality and many are still in extremely good condition.

I picked up a couple of 09's and a 91 last year. All three are in the original 7.65 x 53 caliber.

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=31147

Many believe the 7.65 Mauser was the best caliber that any Mauser was chambered in. The ballistics of the 7.65 x 53 are almost identical to the 7.62 x 51 Nato round.

http://www.surplusrifle.com/argentin...ammunition.asp

Here is a link that includes information about the 09 and 91 Argentine Mausers. Good luck

http://www.surplusrifle.com/argentin...bine/index.asp
http://www.surplusrifle.com/argentine1891/index.asp
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Old April 3, 2009, 09:25 PM   #6
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Both are beautiful guns, very well made.
That 1891 is a beautiful example of 19th century German craftsmanship.

Ammo is expensive.
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Old April 3, 2009, 10:18 PM   #7
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unless you reload... i picked up a set of dies for the one i had for $5 at a gun show
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Old April 4, 2009, 03:47 AM   #8
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Reloadable ammunition runs 14 or 15 dollars a box at Graf and Sons-about par for ammunition in this class
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Old April 4, 2009, 04:36 AM   #9
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What make is that ammo?
I was checking out an 1891 Argentine Mauser at a big gun store a decade ago, the only ammo he had, and he had lots of ammo, for that Mauser was by Norma and it was $35 a box!
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Old April 4, 2009, 11:01 AM   #10
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Prvi Partizan-boxer primed, brass cased

http://www.grafs.com/fc/browse.php?q=&v=&s=asc&p=240

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...oft-point-ammo

http://www.jandcsales.com/765_Argentine.html

If you do reload, cases can be formed form 30/06 or 8mm Mauser brass

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Old April 7, 2009, 09:24 AM   #11
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argent

I have a 1909 and have graf ammo.its good shooting ammo,I got my dies from midsouth they are lee.they can be made from 06 or 8mm.
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Old April 7, 2009, 09:47 AM   #12
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I have two 1891's- a short carbine and a sporterized rifle. They are both in cal. 7.65x53mm (.311" dia.), which is ballistically right in between the .308 and the .30-06. Ammo is more available today than ever. I paid $23.50/box some 25 years ago!:barf: Now, reloading gets me about 2700 fps from a 150 gr. Speer over a charge of IMR 4895. They're both great guns. Picking a new addition needs to include close inspection of the bore for wear and fouling from old corrosive ammo. Most smiths will not build rifles on the weaker '91 action with so many of the '98's still available. It's a real shame, as the bolt throw is much shorter and twice as slick. -7-
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Old April 7, 2009, 10:45 AM   #13
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Interestingly, the Belgium 7.65X54 is actually the same caliber but one nation calls it a 54 the other a 53.

They are certainly well made guns and if in decent shape a good buy.

A rare Argentine 1909 sniper will be considerably more expensive to say the least but they are extra sweet!!

When converting 3006 cases I recommend Lake City match as first choice.
It is softer and therefore more pliable holding up well.
I find Federal to be another good one to convert but LC regular and any other more brittle makes should be avoided as they only last 3-4 firings before they start to split and converting them is too much work to get that little reward, IMO

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Old April 9, 2009, 05:25 AM   #14
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i had a 1891. i sold it a few months ago while i was getting sks's. wish i hadnt now. im wanting anouther one how much do these sell for now? i want both the 1891 and the 1909. they are 7.65 argentine. these rifles can easily shoot 2'' groups at 100 yards.
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Old April 9, 2009, 05:53 AM   #15
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mauser questions

thanks for all the help learned a lot. the one. my cousin has is an 1891 with matching numbers. got to go taking my son to his hunting course.
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Old April 9, 2009, 06:59 PM   #16
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http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction...gentine+mauser
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