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Old April 6, 2009, 08:26 AM   #26
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Sorry to disabuse you of your misplaced constitution, jfrey123. The Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution nor the Privileges and Immunutues clause of the 14th speak to nothing about individual State licensing schemes.

Drivers Licenses are recognized by the States in the exact same manner that the States recognize CCW's. Individual State reciprocity agreements. In some cases, States have actually legislated full recognition of any other States licensing.

The Feds have no actual authority to force any State to recognize another States licenses. Full Stop.
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Old April 6, 2009, 08:48 AM   #27
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Since neither has anything whatsoever to do with CC, I ask again what constitutional authority would congress have to do such a thing?

I would submit there is no constitutional authority for it, but that has never stopped them before.
That is your interpretation and not the Congress' or the Supreme Court's.

The interstate commerce clause has been used to allow the feds to dip into a great many areas that used to be off limits.

The congress could use those two clauses as it's justification for mandating nationwide reciprocity. You could probably throw in the 2A as well.

At that point a state like Massuchusets, California, or New York would challenge that law in federal court.

Don't we have federal peace officer carry? What constitutional authority allowed them to do that?
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Old April 6, 2009, 01:25 PM   #28
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Don't we have federal peace officer carry? What constitutional authority allowed them to do that?
Honestly? none.

reality is cops have an enormous amount of political clout.

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Old April 6, 2009, 07:55 PM   #29
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Don't we have federal peace officer carry? What constitutional authority allowed them to do that?
In California, it's the Government Code that allows federal agents within the state to have both "police" status and carry firearms. If the Federal gov't created a new department (like DHS) and the person was hired specifically as a DHS agent, it's possible that the code would not technically cover them as written. But the A.G. will usually issue a "memorandum" that says the State recognizes them.
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Old April 6, 2009, 08:04 PM   #30
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LEOSA 2004 covers active & retired LEOS, even in CA. The language includes reference to "a concealed firearm that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce,a firearm transported in interstate commerce", using interstate commerce as the rational for jurisdiction in pre-empting virtually all state concealed carry statutes. It does not convey police powers.

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