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Old June 30, 2014, 11:15 AM   #1
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Spanish made firearms & bayonets poor quality steels?

have you noticed Spanish made firearms seem of lower quality steel and seem cheaper than other countries stuff?

even the military bayonets & steel helmets seem to be of a lower grade steel that rusts easily and doesnt seem as strong as others Ive compared it with?

I would have thought they would be similiar to Italian made firearms , but there are not as well made as Italian guns.

I think Chinese made firearms are better made than Spanish, the Chinese use very tough steels, never had a problem with guns made in China.

Ive heard the Spanish use softer steel that doesnt have very good durability and some people say they had a pistol malfunction from dry firing a Spanish pistol and the slide peened and jammed the firing pin from the poor quality
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Old June 30, 2014, 11:45 AM   #2
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Spanish shotguns are some of the finest made in the world, and that means their steel is of the highest quality. Years ago, make that decades ago, post WWII, they had some issues - but then so did a lot of countries
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Old June 30, 2014, 07:49 PM   #3
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SOME Spanish guns have used poor quality steel, particularly some cheap S&W copies and small semiautos made before and during the 1920s. Other Spanish guns are just as well made as any other gun made by anyone at any time.

You just can't make an accurate blanket statement on the subject.
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Old June 30, 2014, 07:55 PM   #4
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My personal opinion is that some of these "soft metal" rumors came after 7mm rifles were converted to 7.62 NATO.
Personally, I trusted my 8mm M43 and it never failed me.
I'm right about the metric system 3/4 of the time.
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Old June 30, 2014, 11:09 PM   #5
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I have a Spanish Mauser bayonet, it is a lot softer than the German. Easy to bend the point.
If I'm not shooting, I'm reloading.
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Old July 1, 2014, 12:02 AM   #6
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I have a Spanish M42 helmet that looks similiar to a German M42 steel helmet with a raw edge, the quality of the Spanish helmet is very poor in comparison to the German model.
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Old July 1, 2014, 03:44 PM   #7
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This would depend entirely upon the Spanish company doin the work and the specifications they were working too. ALL of my semi-current STAR and ASTRA pistols are hardder/tougher than any U.S. of A. made military 1911 45 and 1911A1 45's, all of which are in stock as we speak have been re-built on average six[6] times apiece just from shooting all the 45 hardball of the decades.
And so it goes....
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Old July 1, 2014, 06:16 PM   #8
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I agree that it depends on the maker
I have Star & Astra pistols that are very well made
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Old July 1, 2014, 06:44 PM   #9
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While I we do need to be careful about blanket statements... I will say that the Spaniards have produced quite a few firearms of "questionable" quality over the years. Astra of yesteryear was a roll of the dice (I have a falcon that has a ton of very soft pot metal parts, including the sear and extractor). Astra has since solved any quality issues from what I understand. Llama was a mixed bag, with some of their guns being okay and some not so much.

They put out some fine firearms these days, however. If I were wealthy I would have a Grulla Arms shotgun fixed up right.
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