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Old March 21, 2009, 12:18 AM   #1
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can we carry black powder firearm in national park?

If black powder gun is not considered a firearm can we bring it into federal park?
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Old March 21, 2009, 05:08 PM   #2
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In Washington State, blackpowder weapons are considered firearms if they are loaded.
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Old March 21, 2009, 05:29 PM   #3
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Try taking one into any courthouse and they will charge you on a firearm charge. BP guns are not firearms only in a narrowly defined way. They are considered a firearm in most cases.
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Old March 21, 2009, 05:38 PM   #4
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Waaaaitasec here, that's a damned good question.

OK, take WA state for a moment. Let's assume that like most states, WA considers, say, a front-stuffer revolver (1851 Colt, Remmie, Ruger Old Army, etc) a "gun". Well you can still carry it on a CCW permit. That's true of ALL the CCW states so far as I'm aware...definitely the case in AZ where I am now.

The ban on carry in national parks is based on US (Fed) law and that in turn in most areas doesn't cover front-stuffers. NFA rules don't apply, for example...you can take a 12ga double-barrel percussion front-stuffer shotgun, chop the barrels to 12", put a pistol grip on it, it's all good under Fed rules and many (most?) states.

So just where is the wording on the national park gun ban, and does it cover front-stuffers?

If it doesn't, and you're carrying a front-stuffer revolver under a state CCW permit, you'd be good.

It all hinges on the wording of the Fed statute in question...
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Old March 21, 2009, 08:08 PM   #5
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Thats the point I was trying to make if u were on federal land you would come under federal laws no matter what state u were in
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Old March 21, 2009, 08:21 PM   #6
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OK try to take it into a Federal Courthouse
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Old March 21, 2009, 08:58 PM   #7
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Sometimes common sense is the best answer to a question.

Why would you? Not necessary and asking for trouble. So, no. Unless of course you want to be the ever popular "Test Case", if so, go right ahead.
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