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Old Yesterday, 02:31 PM   #1
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Domestic Violence and Gun Control

After failing to implement more stringent gun control measures politicians and pro gun control groups have a new tactic – focusing on domestic violence. The Senate Judiciary Committee is holding hearings on guns and domestic violence. Also, Gabby Giffords and Bloomberg are using the issue of domestic violence to push gun control and target Senators who support firearms freedom.

This plays into the overall strategy that Bloomberg discussed several months ago of focusing gun control efforts on women. I suppose it also plays into the bogus war on women we keep hearing about. Domestic violence is a serious issue that we should all be concerned about, but not sure restricting the freedoms of law abiding citizens is the way to go about it.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/30/politi...html?hpt=hp_t1
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Old Yesterday, 03:25 PM   #2
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On ABC’s The View they showed a copy of Bloomberg’s video, but it didn’t necessarily get the desired response from the hosts. Three of the four host actually support having guns for protection and even related stories of previous threats in their lives.

http://abc.go.com/shows/the-view/vid...VDKA0_8j9003qu
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Old Yesterday, 04:39 PM   #3
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Yeah, in the "ad", I can see that the woman's phone isn't helping her one bit...

Where's HER gun?...

It just shows me that the people putting out that "ad" are completely illogical.
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Old Yesterday, 04:53 PM   #4
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Don't we already have laws that ban possession of firearms by people convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors?
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Old Yesterday, 05:05 PM   #5
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Canada, as part of the application process for a firearm licence, actually asks you to list your spouse/partners for the last two years including contact details, and current spouse must sign off on your licence application or you must show cause why the fact that they did not shouldn't raise red flags. IIRC the form is gender-neutral, but it's very clear that it's meant to prevent complete arseholes who slap their women around from having guns.
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Old Yesterday, 07:02 PM   #6
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Three of the four host actually support having guns for protection and even related stories of previous threats in their lives.
I think that's the difference. Each one had been threatened inside their homes with nothing substantive to defend themselves.
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Old Yesterday, 07:17 PM   #7
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Gabby, and Mark Giffords are out promoting the concept that gun rights are equivalent to "a part of the war on women". Nothing could be further for the truth.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...A-War-On-Women
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Old Yesterday, 07:25 PM   #8
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Argue with emotions, not logic, such is the gun grabbers way/strategy.

That was certainly unexpected, coming from "The View". The host in pink barely got a word in, she almost looked flabbergasted at what she was hearing from her fellow hosts that they were against what the ad was trying to "showcase".

Kind of refreshing really.
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Old Yesterday, 07:50 PM   #9
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Don't we already have laws that ban possession of firearms by people convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors?
We sure do. The Lautenberg Amendment levies a lifetime ban on firearms ownership, even if the offense was a misdemeanor. The law is overbroad and ex post facto. Isn't that exactly what gun-control advocates want?
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Old Yesterday, 10:26 PM   #10
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...not sure restricting the freedoms of law abiding citizens is the way to go about it. (My emphasis)
Umm... which "law abiding citizens" are you referring to? The last time I looked, domestic violence was illegal. All the current proposals (such as closing the "dating partner loophole" ) would apply to people with domestic violence convictions, so... not too "law-abiding," it seems. (As to restraining orders, the restriction of rights applies only while the order is active. Although restraining orders are sometimes abused, I don't think the incidence of such abuse is as high as it's sometimes made out to be. I know this is an unpopular position, but I put a high value on the lives of women, who are in something of a double bind with respect to domestic violence: they are at considerable risk of injury or death from an abusive partner, but they are frequently charged and convicted when they do defend themselves, even when there's a clear case that they acted in self-defense.)

That said, a lifetime ban for a misdemeanor is excessive; I'd like to see temporary bans instead, applied to a wider range of violent misdemeanors (not just domestic), on the basis that the best predictor of violence is a history of violence.
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