Bolt Action with 10+Round Detachable Mag

Mr Phil · February 5, 2009, 10:22 AM

A buddy of mine asked me at poker last night if anyone makes a a bolt action in .223 or smaller center fire caliber (no rim fire) that will take 10+ rounds and has detachable mags? I could not think of any - now it is bugging me ... Anybody know of one?

Thanks

nbkky71 · February 5, 2009, 11:14 AM

The only ones that come to mind are Savage and Accuracy International, but I don't think they're 10+ rounds

However Badger Ordnance does make a replacement trigger guard assembly with a 10 round detachable mag

Scorch · February 5, 2009, 03:42 PM

Ruger 77/22. Very nice rifles, and great shooters. I own several of them, and I wouldn't trade them for anything.

FrankenMauser · February 5, 2009, 04:22 PM

As Scorch said, the Ruger M77/22 Hornet fits the bill. However, they are 7 round magazines. (I have heard there are 10+ round magazines available, but I have never seen an ad or the magazines themselves.)

There is also the option of going to detachable mags with a Remington 700.

Mr Phil · February 5, 2009, 04:44 PM

Thanks... I googled around and could not find any aftermarket hi cap mags for it.

The ruger 77 is a great gun - I have it in .17HMR and just forget it came in 22Hornet.

I also Spoke to badger they only have kits for .243 and up for the Rem 700s

goodspeed(TPF) · February 5, 2009, 04:49 PM

Steyr made a .223 bolt gun that you could have with either a 5 or 10 round detachable mag. I know you REALLY need those high caps in a bolt gun. For the Zombies I mean.

FALPhil · February 5, 2009, 05:09 PM

There are plenty of aftermarket parts to turn a bolt gun into a 10+ round magazine fed repeater. Robar used to have a package which included gunsmithing that turned a Remington 700 short action into a platform that would accept M14 mags.

HS Precision used to make M700 bottom metal that could handle full capacity mags. Their own rifles may have had full cap mags too.

Sharp Shooter Supply makes full cap extensions for factory Savage mags.

The Tubb 2K looks like it could take as large of mags as you want.

There is no reason the GG&G bottom metal won't handle large mags.

Mr Phil · February 5, 2009, 06:39 PM

Talked to my buddy a few minutes ago - he says thanks to all - he has two savages now and the sharp shooter supply solution is perfect.

He said he would name the first zombie after you guys.

goodspeed(TPF) · February 5, 2009, 06:52 PM

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He said he would name the first zombie after you guys.

* sniffle...

That beings a tear to my eyes.

Just make sure they're headshots iffin you shoot at any Zombies with the name Goodspeed. I don wanna hafta suffer, ya know.

PDBreske · February 5, 2009, 09:19 PM

Savage recently announced a new LE rifle with detachable 10-rd magazine. Here's a link for more info:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...-model-10-bas/

Don't know yet if it will be available in some form for civilians.

Citizen Carrier · February 5, 2009, 09:31 PM

Not exactly in the caliber you mention, but these conversions were brought to my attention today.

They offer a conversion kit for people or gunsmiths to do the mods themselves, or they will do it for you.

It takes single stack AK mags, either 5 or 10 shot, for the 7.62x39mm.

http://www.specialinterestarms.com/i...ions#Enf._7.62

sadsack · February 5, 2009, 09:42 PM

Beside the zombie killer aspect, the ten round mag makes a great palm rest for shooting off hand.

Moloch · February 5, 2009, 09:43 PM

Ok, its in .308 but takes M14 magazines. For the big zombies. Also for were-wolfes and were-elephants.

20 rounds magazines are great to use as alternative bipod, just rest the magazine at a backpack or a sandbag.

goodspeed(TPF) · February 5, 2009, 09:45 PM

Moloch. That's kewl.

Moloch · February 5, 2009, 09:47 PM

Thanks, though thats not my pic. Mine will arrive tomorrow, incredible rifle.
Its gonna be my anti-everything boomstick.

Citizen Carrier · February 5, 2009, 10:04 PM

That sling swivel just in front of the magazine...you going with a Ching or CW sling?

freakintoguns · February 5, 2009, 10:29 PM

is that enfield or a 1903? im a newb to the milsurp rifles

Moloch · February 5, 2009, 10:30 PM

Thats an enfield No4 modern replika, it has several modifications which makes it not a true enfield, its just a modern rifle using the enfield system assembling an No4 enfield rifle.

here is a list of what was changed compared to the original No4 enfield: http://www.storm.ca/~aiarms/M10-intro.shtm

It also has a 60 degree bolt-open (instead of 90) which makes it even faster to cycle.

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That sling swivel just in front of the magazine...you going with a Ching or CW sling?

Not really, but its not a bad thing that it is there..

Citizen Carrier · February 5, 2009, 11:05 PM

Why must you taunt us with things we cannot buy?

Crosshair · February 5, 2009, 11:28 PM

You would think that it would be easy enough for a major company to make a .308 or .223 that takes M-14 mags/AR-15 mags.

Tom2 · February 5, 2009, 11:57 PM

OK, this might be close, doesn't that pump action .223 that Remington made or makes, take AR mags? (long pause) Yea I just checked it out, 7615 tactical rifle. Pump action .223 with a 10 round mag from the factory, but it looks AR and I think it can take regular AR mags, can't it? Sort of an 870 rifle concept in appearance.

Citizen Carrier · February 5, 2009, 11:58 PM

Actually, I was thinking about it.

Semi-autos are what sells in America. People can get them, so that's what they buy. Why bother with all that working of the bolt and whatnot?

American bolt-action users are for the most part hunters, with a few competitve shooters in the mix.

Hunters wouldn't understand the need for 10 shots of anything nor would they appreciate the extra weight, and competitors wouldn't see the need for more than 5.

That leaves high capacity manual repeaters solely the province of the milsurp market and a small cottage industry of custom gunsmiths.

mesabi · February 6, 2009, 03:05 AM

Does anyone know of a bolt action that accepts ar mags?

Inspector3711 · February 6, 2009, 03:56 AM

oops

Moloch · February 6, 2009, 05:33 AM

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Why must you taunt us with things we cannot buy?

Do you mean the AIA? You can buy it, Marstar cnd. imports and sells them to the US, no?

February 5, 2009, 10:22 AM	#1
Mr Phil Member Join Date: January 23, 2009 Posts: 43	Bolt Action with 10+Round Detachable Mag A buddy of mine asked me at poker last night if anyone makes a a bolt action in .223 or smaller center fire caliber (no rim fire) that will take 10+ rounds and has detachable mags? I could not think of any - now it is bugging me ... Anybody know of one? Thanks __________________ Don't bother running away ... you'll only die tired. Last edited by Mr Phil; February 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM.

February 5, 2009, 03:42 PM	#3
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 11,047	Ruger 77/22. Very nice rifles, and great shooters. I own several of them, and I wouldn't trade them for anything. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Taylor Machine

February 5, 2009, 04:44 PM	#5
Mr Phil Member Join Date: January 23, 2009 Posts: 43	Thanks... I googled around and could not find any aftermarket hi cap mags for it. The ruger 77 is a great gun - I have it in .17HMR and just forget it came in 22Hornet. I also Spoke to badger they only have kits for .243 and up for the Rem 700s __________________ Don't bother running away ... you'll only die tired.

February 5, 2009, 04:49 PM	#6
goodspeed(TPF) Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2009 Location: WI Posts: 1,162	Steyr made a .223 bolt gun that you could have with either a 5 or 10 round detachable mag. I know you REALLY need those high caps in a bolt gun. For the Zombies I mean. __________________ It's a trick. Get an axe. http://www.thepiratefleet.com/index.shtml

February 5, 2009, 06:39 PM	#8
Mr Phil Member Join Date: January 23, 2009 Posts: 43	Talked to my buddy a few minutes ago - he says thanks to all - he has two savages now and the sharp shooter supply solution is perfect. He said he would name the first zombie after you guys. __________________ Don't bother running away ... you'll only die tired.

February 5, 2009, 11:14 AM	#2
nbkky71 Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2005 Location: Davidson, NC Posts: 416	The only ones that come to mind are Savage and Accuracy International, but I don't think they're 10+ rounds However Badger Ordnance does make a replacement trigger guard assembly with a 10 round detachable mag

February 5, 2009, 04:22 PM	#4
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2008 Location: 1B ID Posts: 5,402	As Scorch said, the Ruger M77/22 Hornet fits the bill. However, they are 7 round magazines. (I have heard there are 10+ round magazines available, but I have never seen an ad or the magazines themselves.) There is also the option of going to detachable mags with a Remington 700.

February 5, 2009, 05:09 PM	#7
FALPhil Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2007 Location: Racoon City Posts: 794	There are plenty of aftermarket parts to turn a bolt gun into a 10+ round magazine fed repeater. Robar used to have a package which included gunsmithing that turned a Remington 700 short action into a platform that would accept M14 mags. HS Precision used to make M700 bottom metal that could handle full capacity mags. Their own rifles may have had full cap mags too. Sharp Shooter Supply makes full cap extensions for factory Savage mags. The Tubb 2K looks like it could take as large of mags as you want. There is no reason the GG&G bottom metal won't handle large mags.

February 5, 2009, 09:19 PM	#10
PDBreske Junior member Join Date: February 7, 2008 Posts: 171	Savage recently announced a new LE rifle with detachable 10-rd magazine. Here's a link for more info: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...-model-10-bas/ Don't know yet if it will be available in some form for civilians.

February 5, 2009, 09:31 PM	#11
Citizen Carrier Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 671	Not exactly in the caliber you mention, but these conversions were brought to my attention today. They offer a conversion kit for people or gunsmiths to do the mods themselves, or they will do it for you. It takes single stack AK mags, either 5 or 10 shot, for the 7.62x39mm. http://www.specialinterestarms.com/i...ions#Enf._7.62 __________________ Once you've got your sights adjusted to the ammunition you have, step away from the bench. In competition or the field...there are no benches.

February 5, 2009, 09:42 PM	#12
sadsack Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2006 Posts: 206	Beside the zombie killer aspect, the ten round mag makes a great palm rest for shooting off hand.

February 5, 2009, 09:43 PM	#13
Moloch Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 2005 Posts: 1,278	Ok, its in .308 but takes M14 magazines. For the big zombies. Also for were-wolfes and were-elephants. 20 rounds magazines are great to use as alternative bipod, just rest the magazine at a backpack or a sandbag.

February 5, 2009, 09:45 PM	#14
goodspeed(TPF) Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2009 Location: WI Posts: 1,162	Moloch. That's kewl. __________________ It's a trick. Get an axe. http://www.thepiratefleet.com/index.shtml

February 5, 2009, 09:47 PM	#15
Moloch Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 2005 Posts: 1,278	Thanks, though thats not my pic. Mine will arrive tomorrow, incredible rifle. Its gonna be my anti-everything boomstick.

February 5, 2009, 10:04 PM	#16
Citizen Carrier Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 671	That sling swivel just in front of the magazine...you going with a Ching or CW sling? __________________ Once you've got your sights adjusted to the ammunition you have, step away from the bench. In competition or the field...there are no benches.

February 5, 2009, 10:29 PM	#17
freakintoguns Senior Member Join Date: October 6, 2008 Posts: 496	Moloch, is that enfield or a 1903? im a newb to the milsurp rifles

February 5, 2009, 11:05 PM	#19
Citizen Carrier Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 671	Why must you taunt us with things we cannot buy? __________________ Once you've got your sights adjusted to the ammunition you have, step away from the bench. In competition or the field...there are no benches.

February 5, 2009, 11:28 PM	#20
Crosshair Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 5,319	You would think that it would be easy enough for a major company to make a .308 or .223 that takes M-14 mags/AR-15 mags. __________________ I don't carry a gun to go looking for trouble, I carry a gun in case trouble finds me.

February 5, 2009, 11:57 PM	#21
Tom2 Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,644	OK, this might be close, doesn't that pump action .223 that Remington made or makes, take AR mags? (long pause) Yea I just checked it out, 7615 tactical rifle. Pump action .223 with a 10 round mag from the factory, but it looks AR and I think it can take regular AR mags, can't it? Sort of an 870 rifle concept in appearance. __________________ Your gun is like your nose, it is just wrong for someone else to pick it for you!

February 5, 2009, 11:58 PM	#22
Citizen Carrier Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 671	Actually, I was thinking about it. Semi-autos are what sells in America. People can get them, so that's what they buy. Why bother with all that working of the bolt and whatnot? American bolt-action users are for the most part hunters, with a few competitve shooters in the mix. Hunters wouldn't understand the need for 10 shots of anything nor would they appreciate the extra weight, and competitors wouldn't see the need for more than 5. That leaves high capacity manual repeaters solely the province of the milsurp market and a small cottage industry of custom gunsmiths. __________________ Once you've got your sights adjusted to the ammunition you have, step away from the bench. In competition or the field...there are no benches.

February 6, 2009, 03:05 AM	#23
mesabi Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2007 Posts: 369	Does anyone know of a bolt action that accepts ar mags?

February 6, 2009, 03:56 AM	#24
Inspector3711 Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2008 Location: Puget Sound Washington Posts: 1,514	oops __________________ "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." The Dalai Llama (5/15/01, The Seattle Times) "That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." George Orwell