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Old March 8, 2009, 02:07 PM   #1
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Sig Sauer P220 .45 West Germany.....?....

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Any information on this would be helpful. Made in West Germany.
It is in great condition. Worth $550?
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Old March 10, 2009, 03:27 PM   #2
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That price isn't a steal, but it's about where it should be. Kinda hard to tell, but it looks like an older WGerman due to the "spur" type hammer. Don't worry, that's a good thing.

I own 3 220's and you can't go wrong with an older one, you'll really like it. Good luck.
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Old March 10, 2009, 03:49 PM   #3
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It looks nice. I think it is about $100 high.
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Old March 10, 2009, 04:39 PM   #4
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Depending on the condtion, I'd say that price is fair. I have seen them around for 500.00 but they are well used.
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Old March 10, 2009, 05:50 PM   #5
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Thanks guys!
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Old March 10, 2009, 06:00 PM   #6
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Any information on this would be helpful. Made in West Germany.
It is in great condition. Worth $550?
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It is a better gun than current production, in my opinion.

220's are also known for having excellent accuracy.

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Old March 10, 2009, 07:28 PM   #7
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That is worth $550 imo, I recently purchased one in very good condition for $525, they are great shooters with a trigger that cannot be beat by any production gun. If I saw any in that condition for $450 I would buy a bunch of them for re-sale and make at least $100 per..... Look at the Sig Forum, plenty of info there
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Old March 10, 2009, 07:59 PM   #8
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The slide shows an EXETER NH stamp on it...isnt that a new production slide? Or is that an import stamp?
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Old March 10, 2009, 08:59 PM   #9
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If you want the 9mm version of the 220, Gander Mountian have a bunch of them. I think they are $250. They even have some Walther P1 (P-38s) cheep to.
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Old March 10, 2009, 09:06 PM   #10
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Kinda hard to tell, but it looks like an older WGerman due to the "spur" type hammer. Don't worry, that's a good thing.
It's just a P220 American which was the standard P220 until the stainless, one piece, slide version replaced it. Same as it replaced the stamped and folded slide of the P226 along with the seperate breach block.

American refers to the traditional (by American standards) mag. release as opposed to the EU (European) version utilizing the heel butt mag. release. Your gun should have an A to start the serial number.
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Old March 10, 2009, 09:27 PM   #11
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I would buy it. I have had mine for 15 yrs and it has been flawless.
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Old March 11, 2009, 05:58 AM   #12
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The slide shows an EXETER NH stamp on it...isnt that a new production slide? Or is that an import stamp?


All the sheet steel slides were made in Germany. At some point in the early 90's assembly of the 220 started in the states. You can tell if the 220 was assembled in the US if it doesn't have proof marks or a date code under the dust cover. The 220 had a small redesign at serial number 219166 and the one pictured is slightly older than that as it has the spurred hammer. This is when they beefed up the frame some and changed the recoil spring to the 20# one painted green.
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Old March 11, 2009, 10:06 AM   #13
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No matter, it has the stamped and pinned slide, and that's what matters. $550 is a fair price, but not a great one. I'd be much happier at $500 (assuming condition) but wouldn't quibble over the $50 if everything else is right about it. Any extra mags might make up he difference.
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Old March 11, 2009, 10:24 PM   #14
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It is a better gun than current production, in my opinion.
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I'd buy it for $550.
I wouldn't sell my 1984 West German P220 at that price.
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Old August 25, 2009, 03:47 PM   #15
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I was googling the p220 and found this thread.. already a member I decided to post a picture of my p220.. I bought it used about a month ago for 530.00 (570 after tax) it was my first gun... Does anybody know when they stopped making this version of the p220?

I've shot at least 500 rounds with this, and I've only jammed twice and it was because I had bought a magazine that wasn't produced by sigsauer and I tried it first time and it jammed on the 2nd and 6th round... stopped using it before I even finished the mag and haven't used it since, and haven't jammed since.. so technically I haven't jammed yet so far using sigsauer magazines.. came with 2 btw.. came in a gray gun carrying case which when I opened I noticed it smelled like old gun powder.. I took it to the firing range and the first 3 times I used it I noticed that the previous owner didn NOT clean it after every use, because after about 3 cleanings I noticed less and less dirt/powder/gunk... beautiful gun couldn't keep my eye off it.. it just had buy me written all over it.. didn't even plan on buying a gun that day my boss wanted to go get a gun safe and I had talked to him about buying a gun in the past anyways so I went down there, and I have been sold on sig sauer ever since... I just recently bought the two tone p229 9mm which I plan on using for carry as soon as my permit comes in.. Hurry up pencil pushers!

The markings on the inside of the slide read 'KF" which I looked up and KF means it was made in 1995... so that would make the gun 14 years old.. its in damn good shape for 14 years old.. I was only 10 years old when it was made


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Old August 25, 2009, 04:43 PM   #16
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No problems with my 1995 220, shoots everything I feed it.

Well, almost no problems. The front and rear sight are #8 and put the bullet slightly below the front sight dot. Also the trigger bar spring broke, but replacement parts were only $4. Just a little disconcerting when the trigger wouldn't return.

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All the sheet steel slides were made in Germany. At some point in the early 90's assembly of the 220 started in the states. You can tell if the 220 was assembled in the US if it doesn't have proof marks or a date code under the dust cover.
This statement confuses me. My 220 is marked "made in Germany" yet doesn't have any proof marks or date code. A S/N lookup puts it around 1995 manufacture.

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Old August 26, 2009, 05:28 AM   #17
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This statement confuses me. My 220 is marked "made in Germany" yet doesn't have any proof marks or date code. A S/N lookup puts it around 1995 manufacture.



Your slide says "Made in Germany" because it was made there along with mosts of the other parts. At some point in 1995 Sig started sending all the parts to the US for assembly. I would guess one reason was so they wouldn't have to proof the guns. My 220 is very close in age as yours with a serial number of 257,41X.
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Old August 26, 2009, 07:36 AM   #18
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The markings on the inside of the slide read 'KF" which I looked up and KF means it was made in 1995... so that would make the gun 14 years old.. its in damn good shape for 14 years old.. I was only 10 years old when it was made
The grips your P220 is wearing shouldn't fit on a '95 vintage gun. More than likely somebody swapped out the hammer strut, mainspring and mainspring seat with older parts to make them fit. Shouldn't cause any ill effects, but if you want to swap out the grips in the future you might run into problems.
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Old August 26, 2009, 10:14 AM   #19
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i would probably try and get him to go down $50
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Old August 26, 2009, 01:53 PM   #20
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I have a West German P220 that I've had for about 11 years. Bought it in 1998. It came from a sheriff friend of mine who bought it new in 1989. (Markings:JK). He was buying a new gun and sold me this one for $200 back in 1998. Personally, I consider this gun to be the Holy Grail of 45acp. I like my Springfield Armory 1911A1 dated 1986, but this Sig P220 is the ultimate in 45acp in my opinion. I've shot many flavors of 1911A1 as well as some other 45acp. The P220 is the best; and the West German models are the best of the best.
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Old March 5, 2010, 12:28 PM   #21
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sig sauer P220 maunfactured in West Germany in 1996

Can you tell me if the Sig Sauer P220 manufactured in West Germany in 1996 can take the new Sig Sauer stainless steel 8 capacity magazines?
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Old March 5, 2010, 12:42 PM   #22
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Should work just fine.
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Old March 5, 2010, 06:27 PM   #23
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The markings on the inside of the slide read 'KF" which I looked up and KF means it was made in 1995... so that would make the gun 14 years old.. its in damn good shape for 14 years old.. I was only 10 years old when it was made

The grips your P220 is wearing shouldn't fit on a '95 vintage gun. More than likely somebody swapped out the hammer strut, mainspring and mainspring seat with older parts to make them fit.
Now I'm confused. I believe the grips on RogerThat09's P220 are appropriate for a 1995. The mainspring, grips, and rounded hammer are the same as on my W. Germany P220 with proof marks from 1994. I think that the new stippled grips and mainspring assembly came later, possibly when SIG went to the stainless steel slide on the P220.

The OP's P220 is 1993 or earlier since that is when they went to the rounded hammer and reinforced frame. BTW I believe SIG was still making P220s in Germany at least through the mid-'90s. There are P220s from 1996 with Made in W Germany on the slide with the W marked out and German proofs on the dust cover. To some hardcore SIG fans those mid-90's are the high watermark for P220s.
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Old March 5, 2010, 06:40 PM   #24
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There is on here in town for $575. Its a 9mm and used but in great shape.
I really would have like to get it, and probably could have negotiated down alittle.
But I paid just under $400 for a new Bersa 9mm.
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