Magtech brass shotshells...$$$ way up!!!

Andy Griffith · April 16, 2013, 01:44 PM

I wanted to get a few more in 16 bore, and I likened to have had the big one, like Fred Sanford would say...

They are nearly $30.00 a box from some places!
I picked the last ones up right around $20.

I guess in ways they are still a good deal considering they don't really wear out.

Makes me feel better about the ones I have.

Hardcase · April 16, 2013, 04:16 PM

Yep, nothing's reasonable right now. Every now and then I look for .22WRF and it used to range from fair to expensive. Now it's expensive to precious. Same deal with .44 Colt, but at least I can cast and reload that.

Gaucho Gringo · April 16, 2013, 09:43 PM

You can buy 16 gauge paper hulls primed for 17.00 a hundred and they can be reloaded with BP several times.

Andy Griffith · April 16, 2013, 09:56 PM

Please send me a message of wher the 16ga paper hulls exist for that price.

Or any price for that matter.

Graf used to have them, but no more.

I've got four cases of brass now in 12ga, and would like to get two more cases in 16ga.

johnwilliamson062 · April 18, 2013, 11:34 AM

HOw many times can these be reloaded with BP? Smokeless? I didn't even realize there was new production available.

Andy Griffith · April 18, 2013, 04:55 PM

Indefinitely, if you never crimp them.

They don't expand so they never have to be resized. There are only a few documented smokeless loads out there, mostly with red dot. They are on the internet if you search. Alcan had a load brochure with some loads from the 1960's too- I've got it, but I don't know where it is now.

johnwilliamson062 · April 18, 2013, 09:57 PM

How do you load without crimping them? Wax the end or something? A paper wad?

Andy Griffith · April 19, 2013, 08:48 AM

Here is a link to a lot of information:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...rass+shotshell

Sure Shot Mc Gee · April 19, 2013, 08:46 PM

Been a while since you bought some I can see that. Do 410s here. Been sealing mine with Elmers glue. Like your idea better. Just a thought: Get the right color polish and one could color code their shot size. Now there's a good idea I just shared. "Hey how about that!! Andy Griffith_

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B.L.E. · April 20, 2013, 08:25 AM

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How do you load without crimping them? Wax the end or something? A paper wad?

If you are using them in a break open single shot, a 10 gauge overshot card in the 12 gauge shells will suffice without any glue.
In a double barrel, you want some sort of glue so that the overshot wad will withstand the recoil of the first barrel.

Hawg Haggen · April 20, 2013, 12:18 PM

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If you are using them in a break open single shot, a 10 gauge overshot card in the 12 gauge shells will suffice without any glue.
In a double barrel, you want some sort of glue so that the overshot wad will withstand the recoil of the first barrel.

What he said. I used Elmers glue with no problems when I first started reloading shot shells with bp. Now I use plastic shells cut off behind the crimp and roll crimped.

johnwilliamson062 · April 21, 2013, 10:12 PM

thanks for the info. If I take the time to reload I will look into using these.

Andy Griffith · April 22, 2013, 08:15 AM

I've tried holy black with plastic shells, but it starts to melt the plastic and makes a smell I don't like.

I've meant to order some paper hulls to use, but never have gotten around to it, plus I'm going to need some different sized wads for those, and I'll have to find the roll crimpers in this mess I've got around here!

Hawg Haggen · April 22, 2013, 08:41 AM

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I've tried holy black with plastic shells, but it starts to melt the plastic and makes a smell I don't like.

Yeah, I usually only use them once.

April 16, 2013, 01:44 PM	#1
Andy Griffith Senior Member Join Date: May 14, 2009 Location: Macon Co. NC Posts: 528	Magtech brass shotshells...$$$ way up!!! I wanted to get a few more in 16 bore, and I likened to have had the big one, like Fred Sanford would say... They are nearly $30.00 a box from some places! I picked the last ones up right around $20. I guess in ways they are still a good deal considering they don't really wear out. Makes me feel better about the ones I have. __________________ Barney Fife: "Nip it, nip it, nip it!" Andy Griffith:"Oh now Barn'...."

April 16, 2013, 04:16 PM	#2
Hardcase Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: Sunny Southern Idaho Posts: 1,881	Yep, nothing's reasonable right now. Every now and then I look for .22WRF and it used to range from fair to expensive. Now it's expensive to precious. Same deal with .44 Colt, but at least I can cast and reload that. __________________ Well we don't rent pigs and I figure it's better to say it right out front because a man that does like to rent pigs is... he's hard to stop - Gus McCrae

April 16, 2013, 09:43 PM	#3
Gaucho Gringo Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 159	You can buy 16 gauge paper hulls primed for 17.00 a hundred and they can be reloaded with BP several times. __________________ .357 Taurus Gaucho, .22 Heritage RR, 2-Pietta 1858 .44 NMA Remingtons, Euroarms & ASM .36 1851 Navies, .31 Uberti Baby Dragoon, 12 ga H&R Topper, 16 Ga Western Field, .43 Spanish Remington Rolling Block, .44 ASM Colt Walker, .36 1862 Pocket Police 2 1\2", High Point C9 9mm, Winchester 1906 .22, Rossi 62 .22 rifle, Uberti 1860 and IJ .32 S&W BreakTop, .36 Euroarms 1858, .32 S&W long H&R

April 16, 2013, 09:56 PM	#4
Andy Griffith Senior Member Join Date: May 14, 2009 Location: Macon Co. NC Posts: 528	Please send me a message of wher the 16ga paper hulls exist for that price. Or any price for that matter. Graf used to have them, but no more. I've got four cases of brass now in 12ga, and would like to get two more cases in 16ga. __________________ Barney Fife: "Nip it, nip it, nip it!" Andy Griffith:"Oh now Barn'...."

April 18, 2013, 11:34 AM	#5
johnwilliamson062 Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 6,116	HOw many times can these be reloaded with BP? Smokeless? I didn't even realize there was new production available. __________________ $0 of an NRA membership goes to legislative action or court battles. Not a dime. Only money contributed to the NRA-ILA or NRA-PVF. Of course, you could just donate to the Second Amendment Foundation I was feeling pretty good, then I looked around and realized I am not swimming or on fire.

April 18, 2013, 04:55 PM	#6
Andy Griffith Senior Member Join Date: May 14, 2009 Location: Macon Co. NC Posts: 528	Indefinitely, if you never crimp them. They don't expand so they never have to be resized. There are only a few documented smokeless loads out there, mostly with red dot. They are on the internet if you search. Alcan had a load brochure with some loads from the 1960's too- I've got it, but I don't know where it is now. __________________ Barney Fife: "Nip it, nip it, nip it!" Andy Griffith:"Oh now Barn'...."

April 18, 2013, 09:57 PM	#7
johnwilliamson062 Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 6,116	How do you load without crimping them? Wax the end or something? A paper wad? __________________ $0 of an NRA membership goes to legislative action or court battles. Not a dime. Only money contributed to the NRA-ILA or NRA-PVF. Of course, you could just donate to the Second Amendment Foundation I was feeling pretty good, then I looked around and realized I am not swimming or on fire.

April 19, 2013, 08:48 AM	#8
Andy Griffith Senior Member Join Date: May 14, 2009 Location: Macon Co. NC Posts: 528	Here is a link to a lot of information: http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...rass+shotshell __________________ Barney Fife: "Nip it, nip it, nip it!" Andy Griffith:"Oh now Barn'...."

April 19, 2013, 08:46 PM	#9
Sure Shot Mc Gee Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2012 Location: Hey I got Skype finally Posts: 1,008	Been a while since you bought some I can see that. Do 410s here. Been sealing mine with Elmers glue. Like your idea better. Just a thought: Get the right color polish and one could color code their shot size. Now there's a good idea I just shared. "Hey how about that!! Andy Griffith_"

April 21, 2013, 10:12 PM	#12
johnwilliamson062 Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 6,116	thanks for the info. If I take the time to reload I will look into using these. __________________ $0 of an NRA membership goes to legislative action or court battles. Not a dime. Only money contributed to the NRA-ILA or NRA-PVF. Of course, you could just donate to the Second Amendment Foundation I was feeling pretty good, then I looked around and realized I am not swimming or on fire.

April 22, 2013, 08:15 AM	#13
Andy Griffith Senior Member Join Date: May 14, 2009 Location: Macon Co. NC Posts: 528	I've tried holy black with plastic shells, but it starts to melt the plastic and makes a smell I don't like. I've meant to order some paper hulls to use, but never have gotten around to it, plus I'm going to need some different sized wads for those, and I'll have to find the roll crimpers in this mess I've got around here! __________________ Barney Fife: "Nip it, nip it, nip it!" Andy Griffith:"Oh now Barn'...."