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View Poll Results: Night time: Do you keep one in the pipe?
Yes I do, and unlocked 76 46.34%
Yes I do, but locked or decocked 52 31.71%
No I dont. 36 21.95%
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Old February 9, 2009, 06:53 PM   #26
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"My defensive guns are always ready to go, round chambered!If children were around it would be different. We don't allow kids in the house."


......same here!
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Old February 9, 2009, 08:57 PM   #27
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Same as daytime. 100% safe but ready to go!
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Old February 10, 2009, 12:37 AM   #28
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Thank You TFL and Members

Did not have a round in chamber until 3 days ago. After reading TFL threads I decided on "one in chamber, safety on". This morning, 0330, I had my first true OH S! moment as our alarm went off. I am a heavy sleeper , but, 5 seconds from out of bed ready to fire was in hind sight very comforting(especially for my wife who is gun wary). Luckily it was a false alarm, 3 more alarms during the day, and I am sure I have forever traumitized my dd moving through the house in boxers with a gun in hand!

That said, not having to rack slide was a comfort for me

The only other thing learned is my dog talks a big game but...
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Old February 10, 2009, 12:42 AM   #29
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All my defensive guns are fully loaded and chambered. The argument for racking the slide before hand makes far too many assumptions IMO.
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Old February 10, 2009, 01:04 AM   #30
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My guns are always loaded and decocked. I think that on the night stand would be the most important time to have the weapon loaded and easily manipulated. I know when I wake up in the middle of the night only half my brain is working and its dark.
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Old February 10, 2009, 07:27 PM   #31
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Cocked and locked for me.
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Old February 10, 2009, 07:51 PM   #32
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Wasn't there a story about keeping a loaded gun near the bed and the phone ringing late at night and the sleepy guy put the gun to his head instead of the phone and....
Yah, famous Darwin Award winner, that one, and IIRC it was NOT an urban legend.
There was also guy who bought a Darwin award by trying to play Russian roulette with a autopistol. He loaded one round in the mag, inserted the mag, racked the slide and...well, I think you can guess what happened next.
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Old February 10, 2009, 08:32 PM   #33
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USPc locked and cocked 24/7/365. I used to un-chamber a round when arriving home, but decided that the unnecessary handling of the firearms could cause more harm than good. Its always ready to go on me or right by the bed. To keep from shooting someone by mistake, my first instinct is to reach for the flashlight.
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Old February 11, 2009, 07:14 AM   #34
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1911 cocked & locked

bedside phone isn't in a thumb-break holster, though-keep it simple
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Old February 11, 2009, 05:19 PM   #35
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no

,like the xmd40 it really is like the glock , but it has grip safety and trigger safety , but once you hold the gun all you have to do is pull the trigger . so i keep it loaded but not one in the chamber. on the hip i would carry it that way in the holster . but not in my sleep. if it had a manual safety i would carry one in the chamber since you cannot decock the gun with one in the chamber. to scarey . so my question is how do all the xd guys keep the gun safe with one in the chamber?
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Old February 11, 2009, 05:21 PM   #36
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so my question is how do all the xd guys keep the gun safe with one in the chamber?
By excercising proper trigger discipline and not touching the trigger until ready to fire.
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Old February 11, 2009, 06:12 PM   #37
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The XD-45 is loaded 24/7 with the exception being when it gets a cleaning. It never sleeps....

I have a couple of other guns hidden in different areas of the home and they're loaded as well.

All the others are unloaded.
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Old February 11, 2009, 06:17 PM   #38
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What to do?

Evaluate your view of the risks:

1. Chambered - you may ND for various factors.
2. Unchambered - you may not get the gun into action fast enough or screw up the racking.

Which branch is more dangerous to your survival and those you need to protect?

That's the decision for you.
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Old February 11, 2009, 07:17 PM   #39
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Condition Three until I know for sure there's an enemy...

...and its a Pump-12 under the bed. When my dog goes bonkers at 0400 I can be condition 1 covering the hallway in seconds. And in many situations, hearing the homeowner rack a 12 gauge is enough to make a prowler steal someone else's TV. Sleeping with condition one weapons is a no-no in my book.
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Old February 11, 2009, 07:21 PM   #40
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Old February 11, 2009, 07:25 PM   #41
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I specifically chose my HK USP in 40 S&W for my "nightstand gun". I keep one in the pipe and decocked. My rationale:

a) I don't want to wake up and have to remember to rack the slide or to disengage the safety.
b) I don't want to risk an ND so I appreciate that first 13ish lbs. trigger pull in double action.

For me a reliable DA/SA gun met my "nightstand gun" requirements.
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Old February 11, 2009, 07:58 PM   #42
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ignorance

what does ND stand for? i understand what is happening but what is the meaning? no question is stupid it's the question you don't ask.
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Old February 11, 2009, 08:09 PM   #43
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My carry gun is also my home defense gun, and stays cocked and locked and within arms reach 24/7. The only time it gets unloaded is when i shoot it empty
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Old February 11, 2009, 08:12 PM   #44
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My bedside is my carry gun a Sig 226 the only time the chamber is empty is when I am cleaning it. 46 years and I haven't tried to talk into it yet.
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Old February 11, 2009, 10:39 PM   #45
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what does ND stand for?
Negligent Discharge.
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Old February 12, 2009, 05:58 PM   #46
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357 revolver. Simple, no thought process needed to operate. Obviously not kept cocked.
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Old February 12, 2009, 06:18 PM   #47
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357 Also Great Night Stand Gun :d
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Old February 12, 2009, 08:41 PM   #48
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In the holster 15+1
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Old February 12, 2009, 08:50 PM   #49
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Isn't this dangerous?

This isn't a judgement or anything, but I wonder about the risk/reward ratio here. I'm assuming the majority of people here don't live amongst gang-bangers and so I'm wondering what is the need for this?

I'd like to learn how to shoot a rifle for ranges and maybe hunting when I'm good enough. As such, I've started thinking about getting a handgun for the wife as I travel a lot. We don't live in a bad area at all, it's a 'just in case' thing. However, if it's pointless to have a handgun for defense unless you have a round in the pipe then she'd never agree to it. Insight would be appreciate.

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Old February 13, 2009, 09:32 PM   #50
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like badlander siad, all the homeprotectors are loaded, if the dog starts barking, the glock 21 (always hot) and my pistol grip converted saiga 12 with an ati night scope are within reach. i can pick up the saiga and flip the nightvision with iluminator on, so i can be sure what im about to shoot is a bad guy. my wife also has a pistol grip converted saiga 20 on her side and her taurus 745
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