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Old February 6, 2009, 05:43 PM   #1
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High Standard HB field stripping

I have a friend who just bought a HB High Standard and we can't figure out how to strip it down for cleaning. Can anyone help ?
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Old February 6, 2009, 06:33 PM   #2
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High Standard

What is the HB you say it is ? Most High Standard 22 autos need to have the Barrel removed to disassemble. Dan
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Old February 6, 2009, 06:36 PM   #3
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Just looked it up and put my foot in my mouth, I don't recognize it Sorry about that. Dan
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Old February 6, 2009, 07:15 PM   #4
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High Standard HB

Go to www.gunbroker.com there is a take down guide for $8.00. Dan
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Old February 6, 2009, 08:35 PM   #5
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HB looks a lot like HD Military---so I'll bet the takedown is the same.

Pull the slide back.
With the slide back, press down on the little button on top of the slide.
While holding the button down let the slide go forward.
The little button should now be holding the recoil spring compressed.
Rotate the lever on the right side, then slide the slide off of the frame
to the rear.

To assemble:
Cock hammer.
Slide the slide all the way on.
Rotate lever the other way---(knob toward bottom of grip)
While holding lever, pull back on slide until lever catches recoil
spring and little button on top of slide pops up.
Let slide go forward.

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Old February 7, 2009, 12:21 AM   #6
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If it is like the early B, takedown is as follows:

Make sure pistol is unloaded, and remove magazine.

Retract the slide to cock the hammer, and release it.

Holding the slide in the left hand, use the index finger to press in on the rectangular shaped button at the rear of the slide and hold it in while using the right thumb to swing the takedown lever (the rear lever) downward. Holding the takedown lever downward, pull the slide back off the frame.

Further disassembly is not recommended.

To reassemble, hold the takedown lever downward while installing the slide on the frame. Then push in on the takedown button and release the takedown lever. Make sure the lever goes all the way back up; if it does not, press the takdeown button in further until the lever comes back up.

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Old February 7, 2009, 09:03 AM   #7
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Thanks to all for your help. We'll try it out.
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Old February 13, 2009, 04:22 PM   #8
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Well guys, we tried following(I think) the instructions listed to take the slide off. Now it seems like something has come out of place as there is a gritty feel like metal on metal when we try to pull the slide back. Guess it should have been left dirty!Is it time for a gunsmith?
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Old February 13, 2009, 04:31 PM   #9
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We still don't know which model you have, but the gritty sound is probably the stop lug rubbing on the recoil spring.

That means that you put the slide on without the spring being held captive.

If you have the gun with the little round button on top of the slide, you will have to turn the slide upside down and push the spring guide forward with a small screwdriver until you can push down (or up) on the button and capture it. Then you can install the slide, pull it back and press the button to unlock it and allow the slide to function.

If you have the type with the rectangular button on the back, hold the dismount lever down, install the slide, then push in on the button and let go of the dismount lever. It should go back up. If it doesn't push the button harder.

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Old February 21, 2010, 02:09 PM   #10
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Not to steal thread... but I'm having problems dressing a early model B (s/n indicates built in 1940). This was my Brothers. It's extremely dirty and is jamming bad.

Pull the slide back, hold the spring with the little button on top. Safety on. When I push the lever on the right side, the slide moves forward a bit. I don't see any square buttons on the slide or any other devise. The slide should not lift "up" as you can see it's in a groove.

I really don't want to start applying force unless that's what needs to be done.

Any help?

Couple pics of the take down lever


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Old February 21, 2010, 11:18 PM   #11
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Let's start at the beginning, guys. There are two basic early H-S designs regarding take down, and the problem is they changed without changing the model designation. The first Model A, B, C, D and E had no button on top of the slide, and had two levers at the left rear behind the grip. They also had a rectangular button in the rear of the slide. To dismount those pistols, you push in the button on the slide, which takes recoil spring tension off the stop lug. Now the rear lever can be moved down, which will move the round stop lug straight down and allow the slide to come off to the rear.

The second type, and perhaps the best known, copied the spring capture of the Colt Woodsman. That system had not been used earlier because of the Colt patent, now expired. It involves a button on top of the slide. To dismount the pistol with that design, you pull back the slide all the way, push down on the button and let the slide go forward. In fact, you push it forward, since there is no spring tension, the spring having been captured by the pickup spring which is activated by the button. Now the lever, moved to the right side, can be turned down to swing the new type stop lug forward and down, getting it out of the way of the slide and allowing the slide to come off to the rear. Trying to move the lever down without relieving spring tension can break the lever.

The trouble is that if the disassembly and reassembly are not done exactly as they should be, the gun can be jammed up and be difficult if not nearly impossible to fix. One of the most common problems is putting the recoil spring back in without its guide; if this is done, the gun will not work and the spring will get loose and jam up everything. Sometimes patience will solve the problem, but sometimes it is necessary to drill out the recoil spring plug pin and pull the spring out to the front. This ruins the spring and if not carefully done can also tear up the slide.

Now read that all again, and see which type you are talking about.

Note that the design with removable barrel came later and solved the whole problem of removing the slide to the rear.

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Old February 23, 2010, 10:07 PM   #12
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That helps. The orginal question was if I should apply force. I did. It worked. It was a total mess with grime. I have no idea how many years worth. My brother is dead so I can't ask him.

For what it's worth, I spent over an hour Google searching for this answer. Not everyone posts a stupid question without doing homework first.
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