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Old January 28, 2009, 11:00 PM   #1
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A gun you wish was C & R eligble

I have been pretty interested in something along the lines of a FEG PA-63 as an inexpensive plinker and wish I could purchase direct, without going through my FFL. (I know, they can be found at gun shows etc., but I haven't bought anything with my C&R yet and I have the itch). It would be nice if the P-64 or the AP-7 were also C & R, but I guess they all should be available in the next few years or so.

What are you waiting for?
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Old January 28, 2009, 11:01 PM   #2
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Oops, can't seem to edit the title, sorry about the spelling.
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Old January 29, 2009, 08:56 AM   #3
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Buy the Feg and get the Wolff springs for it. It'll dust a Walther PP in the trigger and felt recoil departments. The change is remarkable.
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Old January 29, 2009, 10:23 AM   #4
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CZ 83?

A CZ 82 packs almost as well as a PA-63. It's is heavier and thicker through the grip, but you also have 5 more rounds. And IMHO the 82 is a better handling weapon.
Def. go with a spring kit for the PA-63. If I had to choose between my CZ 82 and my PA 63 the PA-63 would get the boot.
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Old January 29, 2009, 12:32 PM   #5
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Thanks for the advice, I have heard the Wolff springs help a lot, also have my eye on a CZ 82 possibly.

Looking over my OP, I think the last sentence should read more along the lines of.... is there a gun out there that you have your eye on, but is not on the c&r list yet?
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Old January 29, 2009, 03:12 PM   #6
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I'm a waiting for the Browning high power to make the list. I don't think it has been out of production for very long. sure seems to qualify on the historical side tho.
1911 would be another one.

Yes I know that if either of the above is +50 they are C+R I was thinkin more a blanket type ruling on those two.

Oh and excuuuuse me I meant CZ 82 in my earlier post, I'll go fix it now.
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Old January 29, 2009, 04:03 PM   #7
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Some Brownings are C&R if they were made more than 50 years ago. It's been in production over 70 years.

Edit: you knew that, too quick on the draw.
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Old January 29, 2009, 05:32 PM   #8
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A gun you wish was C & R eligble
Well, the M14 is a no-brainer on that one. Unfortunately, they will never be C&R eligible, nor will any other select-fire guns.
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Old January 29, 2009, 06:07 PM   #9
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nor will any other select-fire guns.
Select fire guns do make the list. Just NFA rules still apply.
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Old January 29, 2009, 06:48 PM   #10
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No new select-fire guns can make the list because the Registry is closed.

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Old January 29, 2009, 07:34 PM   #11
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True, but as all existing transferrable machineguns become 50 and/or are added by name, they will become C&R. That means if you have a C&R you can purchase one from someone in another state on a Form 4 without having it transferred through a dealer.

Some state restrict their machinegun ownership only to those classified C&R.

BTW, there are some transferrable M14s.
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Old January 29, 2009, 10:01 PM   #12
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BTW, there are some transferrable M14s.
Sure but they will not be added en masse to the Registry and sold by CMP, which was the intent of my comment.
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Old January 29, 2009, 11:04 PM   #13
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M-14 mmmm...

Didn't think of that. Alas it is never to be.
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Old January 30, 2009, 06:34 PM   #14
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Old January 30, 2009, 07:05 PM   #15
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I wish every gun was C&R eligible.
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Old January 30, 2009, 08:09 PM   #16
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+1

I find myself shopping, find something I like, get ready to order it, and go nuts, it not C+R. With my OCD this might be a good thing
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Old January 30, 2009, 09:11 PM   #17
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I wish the Sterling MK8 (SBR) that Im in the process of having transfered to a local Class III dealer from out of state ...then transfered to me(a total of 2 $200.00 tax stamps) was on the list...they only made a total of 70 of them in the late 1980's, with 15 still in the factory in Dagenham England when British Aerospace purchased Sterling Armament only to close thier doors...so a max of 55 ever made it to the U.S.
I think If I felt like filing out the papers, It probley would qualify for the C&R list due to rarity.. If they were C&R it could be transfered directly to me, at the cost of only one $200.00 stamp.

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Old January 31, 2009, 01:36 PM   #18
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guns I'm waiting for

Colt 1911 of course.
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Old January 31, 2009, 05:16 PM   #19
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I wonder how making the guns c & r affects their availability? I just purchased a p64 from j & g but had they been c & r I wonder if they would still be this available? not trying to hijack the post.
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Old January 31, 2009, 07:17 PM   #20
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+1 to just about every item added to the list.

No need to worry about hijacking the thread, everything that is coming up is interesting stuff, thanks for everyone's input.
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Old January 31, 2009, 08:17 PM   #21
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Old February 2, 2009, 07:05 PM   #22
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Ok, let me ask a stupid question here. I thought that being over 50 years old automatically got it onto the list. Since the vast majority of ex-military 1911's are over 50 years old wouldn't they be C&R?
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Old February 3, 2009, 12:54 PM   #23
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Yup. If a particular gun is old enough, it's a C&R.
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Old February 5, 2009, 01:25 AM   #24
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I'm a waiting for the Browning high power to make the list. I don't think it has been out of production for very long. sure seems to qualify on the historical side tho.
A couple of years ago there were a bunch of Hi Powers that went on the C&R list....or sort of did. If my memory serves me correct they were Argentine surplus guns. I almost bought one. The price, again, if I remember correctly was VERY good. One small problem though. After quite a few had been sold, the BATF decided that they weren't C&R afterall. Those poor guys that bought them in good faith were ordered to return them. I think that Southern Ohigo Guns, and maybe JG Sales, or CDNN were the ones selling them. But, it was maybe 4-5 years ago, and the details are sketchy. Just think how disappointing that would have been?
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a c&r FN HIgh Power

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