The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > Hogan's Alley > Tactics and Training

View Poll Results: How do you carry?
Open 4 2.61%
Concealed 94 61.44%
Depends 38 24.84%
Don't Carry 17 11.11%
Voters: 153. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old January 26, 2009, 09:48 PM   #1
gollbladder13
Junior member
 
Join Date: January 26, 2009
Location: Milwaukee area
Posts: 42
Open vs. Concealed carry?

This is kind of based off of reading an earlier thread, but do you carry open or concealed?

Being from WI, it doesn't matter since we can't CC here anyways, but if it ever passes or if I'm in a state that allows it, I'd like to know what I'm getting into either way.
gollbladder13 is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 09:53 PM   #2
Erik
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 24, 1999
Location: America
Posts: 3,479
I have the option to carry either way and almost always opt for doing so concealed.
__________________
Meriam Webster's: Main Entry: ci·vil·ian Pronunciation: \sə-ˈvil-yən also -ˈvi-yən\, Function: noun, Date: 14th century, 1: a specialist in Roman or modern civil law, 2 a: one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force b: outsider 1, — civilian adjective
Erik is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 09:55 PM   #3
mnhntr
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 9, 2008
Posts: 972
concealed is the better option IMO due to the element of suprise. unless the majority of citizens open carried it would be better to go concealed.
mnhntr is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 10:13 PM   #4
treg
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 26, 2006
Posts: 1,020
When roaming my place or the woods I usually open carry. The rest of the time it's concealed.

Either way is legal.
__________________
"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." - John Wayne

.44 Special: For those who get it, no explanation is necessary. For those who don't, no explanation is possible.
treg is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 10:15 PM   #5
NightSleeper
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 6, 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 449
I'm from WI too, but if ever given a choice, I'd probably go with concealed. Some people would just be scared of you if you openly carried. Although I agree with an earlier post, if most people did carry open, so would I. I figure most criminals wouldn't consider someone openly carrying an ideal target and would leave me alone.
__________________
I have rounds yet to fire before I sleep ...
NightSleeper is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 10:15 PM   #6
Brian Pfleuger
Staff
 
Join Date: June 25, 2008
Location: Central, Southern NY, USA
Posts: 18,601
In NY, especially my county, we have no choice- concealed. We were all told in our county required class,in no uncertain terms, that if some one in the public sees our gun and calls the police then we WILL lose our permit. They claim it has happened before.
__________________
Still happily answering to the call-sign Peetza.
---
The problem, as you so eloquently put it, is choice.
-The Architect
-----
He is no fool who gives what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose.
-Jim Eliott, paraphrasing Philip Henry.
Brian Pfleuger is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 10:23 PM   #7
dabigguns357
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 3, 2008
Location: Ona,West Virginia
Posts: 1,215
I have a related question,Just say that our c/c right do get taken away.What then would we do?I have been thinking about it lately and i think if my rights were taken i would say with out a pause that i would open carry.
dabigguns357 is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 10:28 PM   #8
hoytinak
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 5, 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,710
Quote:
I have a related question,Just say that our c/c right do get taken away.What then would we do?I have been thinking about it lately and i think if my rights were taken i would say with out a pause that i would open carry.
I know many older people that have been concealing long before conceal carry permits were around and continue to do so even without a permit. Some have gotten a permit just to "be legal" as they put it. If they took away the carry permits, I'd proly do what they've been doing for years and carry concealed anyways.

I'm not against open carry (I respect everyone's right to do so and think we should have the option), it's just not really for me. I have carried open when I was stationed in NC but that was only up in the mountains when 4x4ing.
__________________
"Four wheels move the body. Two wheels move the soul."
hoytinak is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 10:38 PM   #9
Shadi Khalil
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 23, 2006
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 4,953
I never open carry in public. My girlfriend tried to get me to do it this weekend but I wussed out.
Shadi Khalil is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 11:08 PM   #10
Rescue2
Member
 
Join Date: December 7, 2008
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 38
In a civilized situation (urban/suburban environment), open carry scares the Nervous Nellie's...

Poorly executed concealed carry is equally scary (or more so) to them.

A "gat" shoved into a waistband, and not covered by the obligatory wife beater t-shirt is the worst of all of them (other than a guy decked out in full camo with a shoulder slung AR and a duty belt full of other destructive crap)...

All of the above invite the curiosity of your local LEO...

Carrying properly and effictively concealed gives you an outward appearance of being just like everybody else, and hence, not a threat to their personal definition of "normalcy".
Rescue2 is offline  
Old January 27, 2009, 12:21 AM   #11
Sixer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 16, 2008
Location: Missouri
Posts: 1,891
Concealed... by the time you see it, it's already too late
Sixer is offline  
Old January 27, 2009, 07:50 AM   #12
Keltyke
Junior member
 
Join Date: April 6, 2008
Location: Spartanburg, SC
Posts: 2,933
No open carry here in SC, so I wear concealed. Given the choice, I'd go open - it's just a LOT easier and more comfortable.

NC is supposed to be open carry - BUT...it's against the law to wear a weapon "to the terror of the people". What that means is, if someone is frightened by the sight of your weapon, you can be arrested. Also, I don't think businesses in NC have to display signs against carry, open or otherwise. A good "Catch-22" situation.
Keltyke is offline  
Old January 27, 2009, 09:03 AM   #13
The Great Mahoo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 3, 2008
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
Posts: 1,268
Open carry is legal here in PA, but I went for the CC license to be on the safe side of the law, which is downright baffling at the thought process. But I digress...

I generally carry concealed, but with an increasingly-loose attitude towards it. I used to worry a lot about people being able to see that I had a gun on me, making sure that it was well concealed and would take some time here and there (in private) to ensure that it was still hidden.

Nowadays, I am much less concerned with it. Rather than be sure its tucked under a shirt, worrying about hiding the clips from my IWB holster, I just cover an IWB or even OWB holster with a long shirt or jacket and get on with my day. If someone happens to see my firearm, I don't really care. Legally, I am not in the wrong, so long as I am not brandishing. If it prints or flashes, I make a casual adjustment (if I even notice) and move on.

I got tired of being so concerned with it that I would wonder if I should even 'carry it to xxxxx' or such, so I decided that I would rather keep it close just in case than worry about what other people thought.

I've only been carrying for about 2 or 3 years, and I don't even carry every day at this point. (I am currently waiting on a new tuckable-iwb holster so I can carry at work, so that should solve that.) When I think back on how I was just a short time ago, I can't help but chuckle. I could come across 50 people a day who are also carrying and not even know it; nor do they know that I am.


That all said, I nearly always open-carry at the outdoor range here, and when hunting, which I don't really do at all.
The Great Mahoo is offline  
Old January 27, 2009, 09:12 AM   #14
12GaugeShuggoth
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 6, 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 534
I voted concealed, but would like to note that I spend a lot of time open carrying.....just not out in public. Around the house or on the farm, I see no need to conceal so I just strap on and go about the usual business. I could carry either way legally in public, but choose to carry concealed.
__________________
---Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.---

---Enlightenment is the ability to take infinite pains---
MOLON LABE
12GaugeShuggoth is offline  
Old January 27, 2009, 09:17 AM   #15
KLRANGL
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 9, 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Posts: 958
Quote:
I never open carry in public. My girlfriend tried to get me to do it this weekend but I wussed out.
Man, what a cool girlfriend :P

I find that open carrying can be better under some circumstances. For example, open carrying alone is a bit awkward, especially in the Peoples Republic of Northern Virginia (which I do on many occasions). But in Virginia, every time I go to a restaurant, I have to open carry it. Now I can do this no problem with my IWB holster, since a quick tuck in of your shirt and you're good to go. But with it exposed like that, and with zero retention on the holster, I find it very very uncomfortable when people walk close behind me. Therefore, when I go to restaurants, I usually run an OWB Blackhawk Serpa, and leave my leather jacket over it where it is mostly concealed. The Serpa is probably the greatest holster made, with its active retention, quick draw, and excellent comfort factor.
In the summer, a quick trip to the Route 7 Starbucks and you might see me in cargo shorts, flip flops, beach shirt, and Serpa/USPc combo

That said, I much prefer concealed, and would love the new bill removing the restriction on CC in ABC certified locations to pass
__________________
And it's Killer Angel... as in the book
KLRANGL is offline  
Old January 27, 2009, 01:50 PM   #16
OuTcAsT
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 8, 2006
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 1,170
I voted "Depends" Because IMHO you should be able to carry in any manner you see fit as long as you are legally able to do so. I carry both open and concealed, just depends on my mood, attire, and destination.
__________________
WITHOUT Freedom of Thought, there can be no such Thing as Wisdom; and no such Thing as public Liberty, without Freedom of Speech. Silence Dogood

Does not morality imply the last clear chance? - WildAlaska -
OuTcAsT is offline  
Old January 27, 2009, 06:38 PM   #17
jfrey123
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 7, 2006
Location: Reno, NV.
Posts: 1,026
Quote:
Originally Posted by teifmen1948
I never open carry in public. My girlfriend tried to get me to do it this weekend but I wussed out.

That's actually a pretty cool situation. I conceal, but have been wanting to try to OC. Biggest thing stopping me is that the GF is with me all the time and I don't want her to get involved in a citizen or LE encounter over said OC... One day that she's not around though, if she goes shopping with the girls or something, I think I've finally worked myself up to it.


To the OP question: concealed in town or hiking well traveled trails, open carrying during 4x4 trips or camping...
__________________
Rock out with your Glock out!
jfrey123 is offline  
Old January 27, 2009, 08:42 PM   #18
tony pasley
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 13, 2006
Location: western north carolina
Posts: 1,374
I usually carry concealed but there are times when I don't put my cover on just to run in and out, or when meeting friends on the way to the range, so both.
__________________
'It has been said that politics is the
second oldest profession. I have learned
that it bears a striking resemblance
to the first.' - Ronald Reagan
tony pasley is offline  
Old January 28, 2009, 12:17 AM   #19
Crankylove
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 8, 2008
Location: The land of green Jello and vanilla icecream
Posts: 1,284
Concealed. Open carry of a loaded weapon in Utah is illegal (you can carry an unloaded firearm openly though, for what good that does you), but even if it wasn't, I would still carry concealed. If I am carrying, it is no bodies business but my own. Some would say open carry may make a potiential attacker thick twice, but I prefer to keep my weapon a secret, and not have to deal people freaking out at the sight of my pistol, or dealing with police after "man with a gun" calls.
__________________
The answer to 1984 is 1776
Crankylove is offline  
Old January 28, 2009, 12:57 AM   #20
Nnobby45
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 20, 2004
Posts: 3,148
If you open carry, you'll deter most would be assailants, but give the worst of them the tactical advantage.

If you like to blend in, and not call attention to yourself, then you don't need me to point out which method accomplishes that.

Some must open carry. They have no options. Some are more interested in letting everyone know that they're entitled to excercise their right. They can't wait to be approached by mall security, and then afterwards, write a post on a forum thread somewhere. Some open carry when driving, or in rural areas. That's fine.

This subject has been argued to death. And will be again until the thread is locked. So I'll take the bait, say what I have to say, and try to comply with the forum rules.
Nnobby45 is offline  
Old January 28, 2009, 11:24 AM   #21
KnightZero
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 9, 2008
Location: Paoli, PA (for now)
Posts: 100
OC and CC are both legal in my state - CC requires you to have a LTCF (License to carry firearms), and any type of vehicle carry in the passenger compartment requires a LTCF. I have my license, and I conceal during most of the week for work. I'm in and out of customer sites a lot, and I prefer not to spook my clients. On the weekends, I carry as I feel is suited for the occasion - sometimes loosely concealing my PT140, sometimes strapping my XD40 on my hip with no cover whatsoever. I tend to avoid OCing all the time, but I will OC to places that I plan to frequent in the future. I've made a few friends, sparked a few conversations, spoken with the occasional LEO, and had the chance to educate a few night shift convenience store clerks about their right to protect themselves in this state. I've never had a negative encounter while open carrying, but then again I don't do it to make a statement. Its more for comfort than anything else. Plus, once my regular store clerks have seen my weapon, and had the chance to ask me about it, I won't have to worry about them calling 911 if I print on a bad day.

I've got no reason to show it off and no reason to hide it. Its just there.
__________________
KnightZero - Zombie Killing Mercenary Watchman for hire. Will work for food.
KnightZero is offline  
Old January 28, 2009, 11:39 AM   #22
Creature
Junior member
 
Join Date: April 8, 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 3,769
Even here where OC is legal, I choose to carry concealed.
Creature is offline  
Old January 28, 2009, 05:08 PM   #23
mrt949
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 16, 2008
Posts: 1,465
C C only way in fl. element of suprise
mrt949 is offline  
Old January 30, 2009, 11:15 AM   #24
NavyLT
Junior member
 
Join Date: January 25, 2006
Location: Oak Harbor, WA
Posts: 1,719
Quote:
Just say that our c/c right do get taken away.
It already has been taken away. It is, in most states by license only. Some states may issue.
NavyLT is offline  
Old January 30, 2009, 12:35 PM   #25
cbgixxer
Junior Member
 
Join Date: January 29, 2009
Location: Charlotte NC
Posts: 11
Quote:
Keltyke
Yeah I have seen quite a few folks around here open carry, especially when out riding in the mountains.

Personally I'm still waiting for my CCP, so I really don't carry on me unless I'm open in the woods on legal land to do so. Although my bud who teaches the CCP class said he had never seen that "terror" law optioned, you never know if someone's going to throw a fit that you have a sidearm on you...
__________________
....... I'm new here
cbgixxer is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.14627 seconds with 8 queries