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Old January 14, 2009, 01:21 PM   #1
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HELP, with Bullet removal

I have a bullet stuck in the barrel of my 260 Rem DPMS rifle. It is just past the chamber and into the riflings. What is the correct way to remove without damaging the barrel. The barrel is a stainless bull.

Thanks for any input

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Old January 14, 2009, 01:25 PM   #2
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This happened to me with my .22. Dump some kroil down the barrel, let it sit, after about a day of soaking(you might have to refill the barrel) it should come right out. Now my .22 was a solid lead bullet, I am assuming yours is copper jacketed, you might need to put a brass rod(cleaning rod) down the barrel and GENTLY tap on the end after soaking it.
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Old January 14, 2009, 04:20 PM   #3
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+1 on the Krol. I'd use a hardwood dowel though. They are cheap at any good hardware store and are too soft to ever damage any threads.
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Old January 14, 2009, 06:15 PM   #4
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its easy . just fire another round , just kidding dont do that . i would use the dowl rod
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Old January 15, 2009, 09:04 AM   #5
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Thanks folks,

I will try the Kroil as I have some sitting on the shelf. Will it work better than Rem oil, liquid wrench, etc...?

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Old January 15, 2009, 08:46 PM   #6
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This has been covered.

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=327965
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Old January 15, 2009, 09:39 PM   #7
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Oooo thanks kraig i musta missed that thread. I saved the text on my PC I hope ya don't mind.
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Old January 15, 2009, 09:43 PM   #8
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Oooo thanks kraig i musta missed that thread. I saved the text on my PC I hope ya don't mind.
Not at all, thats why I posted it.
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Old January 15, 2009, 09:59 PM   #9
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First, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, use a wood dowel to try to remove a stuck bullet. Did I mention NEVER? Well, NEVER! If you do, the dowel will split and you will be left with a bullet and splinters of wood in the barrel. Did I say NEVER use a dowel rod? That's right, NEVER.

Hi, Kraig,

I once recommended that on another site and boy did I get flamed. It seems that firing a half charge of powder behind a stuck bullet will not only blow the gun into atoms, but wipe out all life on earth (if you believe the frantic posts that followed).

In fact, most folks don't realize what really bulges or splits barrels when a bullet is fired into a stuck bullet. It is heat. When the moving bullet hits an obstacle, the kinetic energy it has built up is converted into heat, which for an instant turns the barrel semi-soft, like a chocolate bar at room temperature. Internal pressure does the rest.

In firing just powder, there is not enough of a compact mass to build up any significant kinetic energy, so little heat is released and there is no bulge.

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Old January 15, 2009, 10:06 PM   #10
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You probably already did it, but getting a stuck bullet out is very easy.
No problem at all.



FWIW: I fired a bullet into a stuck bullet in a Ruger PC9 and as far as I could see, not a darn thing happened because of it. I recognized a difference in the report, that's about it.
Another time I filled the barrel of a Model 27 S&W with bullets from end to end. So, I fired five bullets into a bore plugged with bullets and again, once I got the bullets out, nothing happened to me or the barrel.

Don't get me wrong, I don't recommend this. I am NOT saying that this is safe or that there isn't a senario where this could damage the gun or even hurt somebody. What I am saying is that in my experience, the internet gun forum worst case senarios didn't happen.
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Old January 15, 2009, 10:22 PM   #11
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Hi, 444,

If your stuck 9mm bullet was down the barrel, you were lucky. If it was just ahead of the bullet of the chambered round, your experience was normal. Of course, pistol bullets have lower velocity and hence less kinetic energy, but I have seen plenty of bulged pistol and revolver barrels.

If you stick a bullet at the rear of the barrel, and then load a round so its bullet is actually touching the one in the barrel, both bullets will shoot out with no problem. The rear bullet simply pushes the first, and does not have time to build up energy. (It is the difference between one car pushing another and one crashing into the other at 100 mph.)

In experiments on recoil, I once loaded a live round into a .45 pistol barrel, then drove six 255 grain bullets in from the muzzle until the rear one was against the bullet of the chambered round. On firing the gun, other than high recoil, the only result was seven bullets in the sand trap. The barrel was undamaged.

But like they say on Mythbusters, "Don't try this at home."

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Old January 16, 2009, 12:07 AM   #12
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I don't know where the bullet was in the barrel when the second round was fired.
The first shot gave me no indication that it hadn't been completely normal. When I fired the second shot I knew something wasn't right, stopped, and checked it out.
I don't know why the first bullet stuck in the bore. Again, it didn't seem to be not as loud, didn't seem to have less recoil or anything unusual.
Firing the second bullet did not push both bullets out of the barrel. If it had done that, I would have never even known that anything happened. When I stopped and checked out the carbine, the bore was plugged. When I tapped the bullet out, there was two.
I think that one thing that lessened the impact of the accident is the fact that the carbine was blowback operated. Which is the same theory I have with the revolver. The excess pressure just blew out the back of the barrel in both cases. Or so it would seem.
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Under the trees at the turn of the road,
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Old January 16, 2009, 05:30 PM   #13
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Hmmph, kinda like buckshot out of a revolver. Wonder what kind of velocity you had on the bullets.
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Old January 16, 2009, 06:58 PM   #14
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The thing with the PC9, I don't apologize for. I had no indication the previous round hadn't fired normally. The revolver on the other hand was just stupid on my part.
I bought the Model 27 and couldn't wait to shoot it. I lived in a rural town and menioned to the gun shop owner that I was going to stop on the way home and shoot it. So, he gave me some of his cowboy action shooting handloads. So, having never fired the gun before, I loaded six rounds and began shooting at some piece of junk lying on the ground. I thought to myself, wow, these sights must be way off. I haven't hit it and I don't even see where I am hitting. After six rounds I tried to open the cylinder and it wouldn't open. I examined the gun to see what the problem was and noticed that a bullet was stuck inbetween the cylinder and the barrel.
I should have never fired someone elses handloads.
I am a pretty good pistol shooter and when I wasn't hitting the target or anything near the target I should have realized there was something wrong.

My bad.
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How the farmers gave them ball for ball,
From behind each fence and farmyard wall,
Chasing the redcoats down the lane,
Then crossing the fields to emerge again
Under the trees at the turn of the road,
And only pausing to fire and load.
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Old January 16, 2009, 08:57 PM   #15
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Thanks for the laugh Boatmonkey. I can now finish my beer and enjoy the rest of my evening.
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Old January 17, 2009, 11:45 AM   #16
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The bullet is out

The bullet is out

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Old January 17, 2009, 11:53 AM   #17
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I will alert the media.
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How the farmers gave them ball for ball,
From behind each fence and farmyard wall,
Chasing the redcoats down the lane,
Then crossing the fields to emerge again
Under the trees at the turn of the road,
And only pausing to fire and load.
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