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Old January 13, 2009, 08:41 PM   #1
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Smartcarry while sitting down?

Can you draw from a Smartcarry holster while sitting down? In a chair or while driving?
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Old January 13, 2009, 08:51 PM   #2
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I can't - but then I don't wear my pants really loose. That's why I take my pistol out and put it in the console when I'm driving.
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Old January 14, 2009, 02:38 PM   #3
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I could not reliably draw other than from the ready while standing, and thus eventually mine made its way into the bin of discarded holsters.

While sitting, essentially the same thing; if I was ready to include staging my body just right, I was fast and reliable; but life just has a way of not always allowing for that.

Is it a viable deep concealment method? Yes. I have less of a need for deep concealment than I do for reliability, flexibility, and speed of access.
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Old January 14, 2009, 03:39 PM   #4
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I have no problem doing so - the handgun remains vertical and I'm trim enough that I can knife-hand into the waistband of my trousers to draw the gun. My biggest issue with SmartCarry is that guns with longer butts tend to print awkwardly - I have relegated the SmartCarry holsters that I own (2 of them) to deep-cover carry with small handguns.
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Old January 14, 2009, 04:28 PM   #5
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guns with longer butts tend to print awkwardly
"Excuse me Sir, is that your gun or are you happy to see me?" awkwardly? Or "Oh my god that man has a horrible hernia!" awkwardly?
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Old January 14, 2009, 04:43 PM   #6
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1. Being overweight reduces the ability to use a Smartcarry.

2. I have practiced drawing while seated. Lean back/scoot your butt forward slightly and it can be done reasonably quickly, even in the car, if you are in shape. If you absolutely need a fast draw and don't require deep concealment then Smart Carry is not for you.

3. To avoid printing while not dressing as a "Gangsta" choose pants with pleats and stay with darker colors which do not show bulges since shadows are not noticed.
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Old January 14, 2009, 05:30 PM   #7
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I don't have a SmartCarry but I've used a Desantis Belly Band riding low in front with my M&Pc just below belt level. I also carry a Kel-tec PF-9 w/rail laser in the handcuff pocket. Neither one can be seen and I can easily draw while seated, although I do loosen my belt & recline the seat just a bit...

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Old January 15, 2009, 08:05 PM   #8
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Thanks for the responses!

Can a belly band holster at an angle?
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Old January 16, 2009, 11:52 PM   #9
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I 2nd the cupholder!
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Old January 17, 2009, 10:54 AM   #10
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"Can a belly band holster at an angle?"

Some allow for it; it depends on how they are sewn.
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Old January 17, 2009, 11:46 AM   #11
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I 2nd the cupholder!
One of the lessons of the Miami FBI shooting is to not carry a weapon laying around in the interior. If you happen to get rammed or even make a panic stop, your pistol is now scooting along the floorboard, under a seat or out the door (once someone opens it) to who knows where.

One of the lessons of smartcarry is that it isn't smart.
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Old January 17, 2009, 12:24 PM   #12
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Quote: One of the lessons of smartcarry is that it isn't smart...


Maybe...but my wife's having a tough time finding a warm weather concealment holster that'll work for her Para .45 PDA. She hasn't tried a SmartCarry yet but it's advertised as being...uh......girl friendly...

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Old January 21, 2009, 07:12 AM   #13
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Seatbelts do get in the way. That applies to any holster short of shoulder rigs though.
Notice the inventor is fairly trim, it doesn't work as well on larger people from what I've heard. Then again most IWBs don't.
If you have trouble drawing from a seated position, slipping to your dominant knee gives a much more stable shooting platform as well as a lower profile.
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