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Old January 5, 2009, 03:57 PM   #26
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I'd like to take this opportunity to comment on a few other bulk ammo's while answering about the two asked, if ya'll don't mind.

Federal load #750.
Two thumbs up. Accurate, relatively consistent. Good reliable hunting ammo.

Remington Golden Bullets 550 bulk pack.
Two thumbs down. Waaay down. :barf: Terribly inconsistent, spotty accuracy and DIRTY.

Federal Automatch 325 round bulk pack.
Two thumbs up. Waay up. Fairly clean, very accurate for bulk. Very good report consistency. Plenty good enough for small game. Be aware this ammo has a recall notice due to a bad batch that made it out of the factory. My packs were good to go. See http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=223492 for details.

Winchester 333. 333 round bulk pack.
Two thumbs up. Plenty accurate for hunting, good round consistency and not too dirty to clean-up after. Does baaad things to small game. .22 size hole going in, ping-pong ball size hole going out.

Winchester Xperts. One thumb up, one thumb down. Feeding reliability is inconsistent in my semi-autos. Fairly accurate. Fairly consistent sounding rounds. Decent small game round, but does a lot of damage on exiting. Pretty much same description as noted for the Winchester 333 ammo.

This is a game you'll have to play and decide for yourself. As was noted earlier, .22 rifles are notoriously finicky about their likes and dislikes in ammunition. The Winchester Xperts are a good example of this. Feeding reliability was good in my Nylon 66, not so good in my model 60.
The Golden Bullets did not do well in any of my three rifles. It was terribly inconsistent from round to round. This was the sound of a typical string of shots.

BANG!-CRACK!-CRACK!-pop-POP!-CRACK!-bang-pffft-BANG!-pffft-CRACK!.

Some rounds went supersonic, some had me wondering whether they even made it out of the barrel. And they were the dirtiest rounds I've ever tried this side of Thunderbolts.

Asking for an opinion about .22 ammunition has to be the ultimate YMMV question. My experience with RGB's is a good example. Some will swear by these rounds and I simply cannot catch a break with them. After trying them twice I threw in the towel. I still have half of the second box in the bottom of the catch-all junk drawer. I read of people who won't touch Federal bulk packs due to bad experiences with them whereas I've had zero probs with it. Go figure...

I hope this helps.
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Old January 5, 2009, 04:42 PM   #27
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Failure rates this high would indicate something wrong with the gun (dirty firing pins giving light strikes?) not the ammo. Some crud built up on the feed ramp or under the extractor?
the trailside was brand new, and neither gun had any probs eating the wolf ammo that same day.
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Old January 5, 2009, 05:31 PM   #28
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most of my .22s are CCI mini mags, that feed flawlessly into my 10/22, never a miss fire.
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Old January 5, 2009, 05:34 PM   #29
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I'm also on the Federal Bulk bandwagon. Probably 4000 rounds through my 10/22 and I can count the number of ftf on one hand. My S&W .22A is a different story, but the ftf there is more about light strike from the firing pin.
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Old January 5, 2009, 05:35 PM   #30
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Remington Wildcat .22LR works amazing! I thought the quality would be crap, but it did not jam my ruger pistol a single time! I usually shoot CCI stingers, and boy those babys jam alot. Check it out!
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Old January 5, 2009, 06:59 PM   #31
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Depends on the gun, some of my .22's do fine with Federal, and some do fine with Golden bullets. Some dislike both. The .22 is a finicky round.
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Old January 5, 2009, 07:43 PM   #32
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I've shot thousands and thousands of the wally federal bulk. Misfires are pretty rare. I probably have 10,000 or more on hand right now. It's just fun to shoot all day for $8-16. CCI is better and more accurate for sure, but it also costs 5-10 times as much.

I was a Remington bullk shooter but it is horrid these days. I had misfires of about 1/9 or 1/10 in all my 22s. You can also hear some rounds that sound louder or softer than others.
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Old January 5, 2009, 11:07 PM   #33
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Federal bulk is superior to the rem golden bullets...

I have gone through 2 boxes of Fed 525 Value pack which I believe is the loading #745 which is a Champion Target load which is in the same line up as the renowned fed .510 I believe... It's accuracy is good, not excellent but good in my CZ 452 and its reliability has so far been 100%!!!! I have only about 50 left and not one has failed to fire. I really should post the lot number but I don't have access to it at the moment. Its a great batch... wish I bought more... Personally I have since switched to federal ammo in all my hunting rifles. I feel Federal has better quality control and much better bullet selection compared to Remington in the centerfire categories.

Winchester Dynapoint is also decent if your looking for other bulk options.
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Old January 7, 2009, 07:08 PM   #34
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Depends on the gun, some of my .22's do fine with Federal, and some do fine with Golden bullets. Some dislike both. The .22 is a finicky round.
Average Joe,

It's not the rounds that are finicky, it's the firearms themselves.
Some guns are downright crazy finicky with what one feeds them. I don't have this problem with my firearms, but ohhh, the stories I've read. OY!
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Old January 8, 2009, 02:07 AM   #35
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i have to agree with the masses here.i did a test today and first shot 100 remington golden bullets and at least 1 in a 10 round mag was either a failure to feed or a failure to fire.did the same tests with the federal bulk pack and not 1 failure to do anything but go bang every time i pulled the trigger.so my money will be spent on the federal bulk from now on.oh yeah the test pistol was a ruger mark 2 bull barrel gov't model.i was,to say the least,impressed with the federal ammo.
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Old January 8, 2009, 08:35 AM   #36
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i have gone thru over 6000 of the winchester 22's from wally world in the past month and out fo all them i had 0 squibs - maybe 100 that did not fire - and maybe 250 dropped in the mud - 25 that made it thru the washer and dryer - and a few that the lab ate ' $hittin bullets' lol . but they do seem to be some dirty bullets and make a mess with my smithy revolver . my biggest issue now is that wally world now can not keep the bulks in stock here in ral nc and forced to pay 22.00 per 500 for the sorry thunderbolts vs 15.00 for the winchesters and remingtons
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Old January 8, 2009, 07:46 PM   #37
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Gamehunter59, I'm curious as to why you didn't also list Winchester bulk .22LR ammo? Is it still available? I haven't shot any lately as I don't use bulk ammo, but my son does when he's shooting his Ruger .22LR pistol (auto). It seemed like he had a lot of non-firing rounds of the Federal bulk ammo. I had a box of old Winchester X-Perts and they all fired and fed well. Just wondering if their bulk packs were as good?
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Old January 8, 2009, 11:18 PM   #38
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My 10/22 doesnt seem to like the latest batch of Federal 525s I bought. About 1 out of 20 jam. Anyone here like the CCI Blazers?
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Old January 9, 2009, 12:31 AM   #39
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Blazer fan here! (Raises hand)
They are great, but, I can't find them in bulk so I have to buy the 50 round boxes. That's the only reason I didn't include them in my above comparison post.
Blazers give me above average accuracy, cleaner burning than most and very good report consistency. No pffft! bang! pop! with them.
They also do great work on tree rats when the round nose is sanded or filed flat. They make a very nice satisfying THWACK! on impact.
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