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Old December 23, 2008, 12:31 AM   #1
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Recoil of a .223 vs. 22LR

Im new here so please bear with me. I was wondering what the difference in recoil was between a .22 LR and a .223 rifle. I have a pacemaker, so I am unable to shoot anything with a heavy recoil. Thanks!
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Old December 23, 2008, 01:05 AM   #2
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That depends. 223 out of an AR platform is pretty much nil, about the same as a 22 bolt, maybe a tad more. Fire it out of a bolt though and you'll feel it more.
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Old December 23, 2008, 01:26 AM   #3
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I think you would be fine with the .223. My uncle has a pacemaker and will shot anything up to .30-30 winchester. A .223 out of a ar-15 type weapon has very little recoil.
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Old December 23, 2008, 02:14 AM   #4
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My wife has three rods between her shoulder blades from breaking her back twice. She cant take anything that resembles recoil. I built here a 243 that she can shoot. The 223 even in a bolt gun has a lot less recoil then the 243. She shoots my 223 bolt gun all the time. She has problems with my AR but not because of the recoil but the weight, its a target version weight in at 13.5 lbs

I really doubt you'll find the recoil of a 223 objectionable
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Old December 23, 2008, 06:34 AM   #5
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There is a difference in the 22lr and 223, and in lighter bolt rifles you can feel the recoil from the 223. Though its more of a 'push' than a 'kick'

In case you haven't seen this page, its very useful for recoil estimates.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm
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Old December 23, 2008, 07:46 AM   #6
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its a target version weight in at 13.5 lbs
That's quite a hefty AR, got a pic?
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Old December 23, 2008, 08:21 AM   #7
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Probably looks something like this :

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Old December 23, 2008, 08:57 AM   #8
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I have fired .223 bolt rifles from the bench and even using the "free recoil" method , find it to be pretty mild. There is a definite difference compared to 22lr but still a very mild centerfire cartridge.

Even when firing the .223 in my TC Super 14 "handgun" it is not unpleasant in the least bit , in regards to felt recoil.
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Old December 23, 2008, 09:00 AM   #9
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The .223 out of a light bolt action has just enough kick to be fun but not enough to make most people flinch.
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Old December 23, 2008, 10:08 AM   #10
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You'll feel the .223 but it is nothing to be even concerned about. Years ago when I bought a Ruger Mini 14, I noticed several things.... they're loud and there was more recoil than I expected. AR-15 style rifles recoil less.

The only handgun configuration is the TC Contender or similar that shoots 223. Yes, there is some recoil, but nothing like the larger calibers that folks really like in them.

With the Peacemaker, recoil with 22 isn't much as you know.
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Old December 23, 2008, 10:34 AM   #11
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How about just shooting right handed?

To answer the question...

A 22lr in a 7lb gun has recoil of less than 1ft/lb, somewhere between .5 and .8 @ about 2.7 ft/s depending on the round. A .223 will be about 5 1/2ft/lb @ 7.2 ft/s (50gr, 3300fps) in the same gun.

If your looking for super light recoil with higher power the .204ruger is the way to go. Effectively zero recoil in just about any gun. The crosshairs won't even jump.
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Old December 23, 2008, 10:43 AM   #12
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The recoil from a .223 is faster. It gets out the bore quicker. With a .22 I can feel it go down the bore and twist the rifle in my hand.
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Old December 23, 2008, 10:39 PM   #13
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thank you all so much for the help! one of my friends suggested shooting a 223 out of an AR. I think i will try a .223 and see how it goes.
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Old December 24, 2008, 12:15 AM   #14
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Brakes tend to cut down recoil so one might want to consider removing the flash hider and substituting one of them.
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Old December 24, 2008, 05:32 AM   #15
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Muzzle brakes do indeed reduce recoil but in the bargain, they deafen you with muzzle blast. I hate shooting next to someone with a muzzle brake at a shooting range. Double hearing protection is barely enough.
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Old December 24, 2008, 06:04 AM   #16
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Maybe it's just my rifles...

but I think the .223 has a pretty heafty recoil compaired to 22lr which is non existant almost.

I like to shoot both but am almost always shooting the 22lr twice or three times as much as the .223 because of cost.

Pacemaker... I think if you are wanting to have fun doing a good bit of shooting then a 10/22 can't be beat... heck you can even buy a tapco stock and make it look sort of kinda like an Ar.
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Old December 24, 2008, 09:11 AM   #17
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Even out of an AR, the 223 kicks a LOT more than a 22LR.

Start with 22LR and go from there.

One thing to consider down the road is reloading. Then, you can load VERY light loads in calibers that may usually kick too much for you.
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Old December 24, 2008, 09:44 AM   #18
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22lr out of a 5 pound gun has almost no felt recoil.

223 you feel, but is not in any way uncomfortable according to anyone I have spoken too. Small framed individuals, youth, etc.

Shoot it standing and lean into it see how it feels then try kneeling, sitting, and prone. I think you will be very pleasantly surprised.
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Old December 24, 2008, 11:14 AM   #19
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You can shoot an AR15 with the stock on your nuts without pain.
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Old December 24, 2008, 02:44 PM   #20
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BeCoole is right on! Long ago, when I reported for O.S.U.T. at FT. Benning, the first day we fired the M-16-A1 the range cadre demo'd by having the smallest guy in the platoon hold the rifle against the family jewels and then squeezed off a round. The little guy didn't even flinch. If you would rather have the .223, get it in an AR-15.
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Old December 24, 2008, 02:51 PM   #21
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Muzzle brakes are the most annoying thing. When a guy shoots a gun with a brake next to you, not only is the report louder, but you can actually feel the wave go over you. There is no reason to reduce the recoil of such a mild weapon. And the difference between the .22 and the .223 is definite. The .22 has ZERO recoil, while the .223 has a mild kick. Nothing to worry abot, but they are not in the same league.
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Old December 25, 2008, 04:21 AM   #22
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If you get the AR, get a Varmint gun with a long heavy barrel to soak up what little recoil there is.
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Old December 25, 2008, 06:53 AM   #23
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To repeat myself....

Every time I shoot either my AR or Mini14 after I run 20 or 40 rounds through them I start getting a real pain.... it's on my rear.... back pocket where my wallet is kept.

After running 100+ rounds through my 10/22s I just kind of chuckle and hunker down with a warm fuzzy feeling and shoot some more.....

Giving the .223 the best price advantage I can (cheap .223 compared to sort of expensive remington target 22lr) .223 cost 5 times as much to shoot.... cheap to cheap it's well over 10 times.

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Old December 25, 2008, 08:23 AM   #24
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Muzzle brakes are the most annoying thing. When a guy shoots a gun with a brake next to you, not only is the report louder, but you can actually feel the wave go over you.

Amen to that! I like to shoot at the 100 and longer yard lanes just to get away from the muzzle braked AKs at the 50 yard range. I wish that the rifle ranges had a separate range for guns like that. Let them deafen and shower each other with hot empty brass as they make shotgun-patterns on their targets.
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Old December 26, 2008, 07:32 AM   #25
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The average recoil energy of a .22lr is .2 and the average recoil for a .223 is 3.2 and for comparison the recoil energy of a 30-06 is 17.6 Below is a recoil chart you might find useful.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm
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