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Old December 18, 2008, 07:36 PM   #1
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S&W MP ar 15 VS. Rock River Entry tactical ar 15

I'm looking to buy my first AR, what's the pro and cons?

Thanks in advance
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Old December 18, 2008, 07:58 PM   #2
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AR

I own a stock S&W MP-15 and a Armalite Nat. Match. Both run flawless. I really like the S&W, it's reliable, accurate, comes with good sights. I have checked all the points bandied about on various forums such as proper staking, marking on the sights, firing pin, etc.etc. and all seem to be the "right stuff". The one negative is the horrible trigger. Compared to the Armalite Nat. Match it seems crude. Perhaps durable, and reliable, but it certainly is no target trigger. I'd buy another. However I will probably change the trigger out at some point. I put an Aimpoint on the rifle and really like it also.
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Old December 18, 2008, 08:30 PM   #3
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I bought a Smith M&P 15 in the spring;


I also really like mine. I very much like the sights, accuracy, reliability, but agree, the trigger sucked. I've put several hundred rounds through it without a single problem.

I just changed mine to a Jewell two-stage. Shot it last weekend, what a difference! I still need to do a little adjusting for my liking, but a vast improvement. Don't know if it was cost effective at $200, but I didn't tell the wife, so I guess it's all good.
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Old December 18, 2008, 09:01 PM   #4
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S&W is an expert on making the AR. They have been doing it for 100 years!!!
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Old December 18, 2008, 09:16 PM   #5
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My M&P15 has a RRA two-stage trigger. I've spent a lot of time with my buddy's RRA carbine. It's every bit as nice as my M&P. The M&P might be slightly better for fit and finish as far as tool marks, but that's pretty insubstantial. Both are good shooters. Both are reliable. RRA's trigger is lightyears ahead of the military style trigger that comes with the M&P.

Can't go wrong either way.
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Old December 18, 2008, 09:17 PM   #6
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Picked up a RRA Entry Level Tactical and never looked back. Performance and quality is superb. Just put a 512 EOTech on it last week. Accuracy with the two stage match trigger is phenomenal to say the least! Workmanship is outstanding.

http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.c...ategory_id=217
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Old December 18, 2008, 09:34 PM   #7
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S&W is an expert on making the AR. They have been doing it for 100 years!!!
AR's aren't even that old. The general concept of the Ar-15 is like a half century old itself, how can S&W have been making them for 100 years?
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Old December 19, 2008, 12:36 AM   #8
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I have no personal experience with either(worth speaking of anyway,handled both).I would get the M&P based on QC procedures and quality of materials used.
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Old December 19, 2008, 06:36 AM   #9
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The S&W is closer to meeting the TDP spec than the RRA. Given that pricing is going to be similar, there's no reason not to go with the S&W.
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Old December 19, 2008, 08:39 AM   #10
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S&W are made by Stag Arms and Smith only puts their name on them so you have to pay the middle man.
Is this true?
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Old December 19, 2008, 03:46 PM   #11
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It was at one time i think(both mostly CMT),but i dont believe thats still the case.

If you look at the specs on each,the S&W wins hands down imo.
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Old December 19, 2008, 04:42 PM   #12
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I just bought a S&W M&P 15T, cant wait to shoot it!!
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Old December 19, 2008, 11:34 PM   #13
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get the smith.

or even better quality would be an LMT or Charles Daly
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Old December 22, 2008, 11:42 AM   #14
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At first S&W used stag arms parts but now (and most) are made in house. This was in a G&A article a few years ago. I have a S&W M&P 15 and find it amazing. i have just over 1500 rounds through it and the only time it had not fed correctly is when my shell catcher gets in the way. Love it but also have a RRA 6.8 SPC upper and love that so far as well
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