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Old November 28, 2008, 06:51 PM   #1
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Springfield Scout Accuracy

I just bought a Springfield .308 Scout rifle and put a Burris handgun 3x-7x scope on it.

At a hundred yards, the best I'm getting for 10 rounds is about a 5" spread around the bullseye with at least one shot in the bullseye. Should I expect better than that from the stock gun or is that about as good as I'm going to get. By the way I'm using a caldwell leadsled to shoot from.
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Old November 28, 2008, 06:58 PM   #2
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Did you buy the gun new or used? If used, did you inspect the muzzle crown? Why are you using a handgun scope?
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Old November 28, 2008, 07:59 PM   #3
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^^ I'm assuming that the pistol scope is because it's mounted in the typical scout location ahead of the reciever.

Op as far as accuracy is concerned. Many factors are involved try different brands of ammo. Black Hills and Federal Match ammo are pretty good. Also if the barrel is new you may need a few hundred rounds through the bbl before it settles in. This assumes your not flinching when pulling the trigger and the scope and mount are working good.
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Old November 28, 2008, 08:00 PM   #4
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How accurate is it with iron sights?
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Old November 28, 2008, 08:20 PM   #5
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I have an M1A Scout Squad that I've been using for a few years. I have a Leupold 4x handgun scope on detachable rings that has not only proven itself recoil resistant but has also kept excellent zero. I can manage to keep 10 rounds in contact with each other at 100 yards using the scope and at 50 yards with iron sights.

Keep practicing, milsurp ammo is your friend, and enjoy.
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Old November 28, 2008, 09:41 PM   #6
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My M1A Bush rifle is picky when it comes to accuracy. For example, 180 grain Winchester 5-6 MOA. 180 grain Federal 2.5- 3 MOA. 150 grain Federal Sub MOA. It consistently shoots inside an inch at 100 yards with 150 grain Federals. I did glass bed it though. My suggestion is to try different ammunition, it can make a big difference. The Bush rifle has the same barrel as the Scout, as far as I know.
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Old November 29, 2008, 12:03 AM   #7
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Good Questions

The gun is brand new. The ammo is reload. My brother and I have used the same ammo in a couple of different guns. My brother has a Springfield m25 and my shots with his gun/same ammo are right on top of each other at 100 yards.

The reason I went with the handgun scope was to get the zoom power, use the rail that comes with the rifle and get the needed eye relief.

I'll just keep shooting it and i'll try different ammo. Thanks.
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Old November 29, 2008, 02:41 AM   #8
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BushBuddy,

Keep in mind that your brother's M25 Whitefeather has an extra 4-inches of barrel with a 1:10 rifling versus your 18-inches with 1:11 rifling. That'll make a difference.

As indicated by roklok above, the .308 M1A works best with ammo that is close to the 147g NATO type ammo. The 150g Federal and Winchester ammo should give you nice accuracy. Bond007 is correct here, milsurp is your friend.
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Old November 29, 2008, 02:46 AM   #9
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It is quite possible that the rifle's recoil is drastically affecting the scope. I would highly recommend switching to a long eye relief rifle scope. And check the rifle with iron sights. The rifle should be at least that accurate using the stock sights, and probably better.

Or it could be your trigger technique. Try the pinch technique. When you are shooting from a rest, try using your non-trigger hand on the pistol grip area (right behind the trigger guard -- does that part of the stock have a name?) to pull the rifle tight against your shoulder. With your trigger hand, pinch the trigger with your index finger on t4he trigger and your thumb behined the trigger guard.

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Did you adjust your pistol scope for Parallax? Thru a quick Google search, it appears that most handgun scopes are set for 50 yard parallax, not 100. I suck at explaining parallax, so you'll need to look it up. But as I understand it, minute shifts of your eye, with a scope mis-set for parallax could shift your point of aim.

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Old November 29, 2008, 05:29 AM   #10
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Parallax...


http://www.6mmbr.com/parallax.html
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Old November 29, 2008, 06:02 AM   #11
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The 18.0" Scout is inherently accurate out of the box, most shoot around 3 MOA with good NATO ball.
Mine would shoot 1.5 MOA... if you want to tighten things up, shim the gas system and tune the trigger.
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Old November 29, 2008, 10:13 AM   #12
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Thanks

What does "shim the gas system" mean?

I'll try the other things suggested and let you know how it goes. I don't think my scope has a parallax adjustment?
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Old November 29, 2008, 09:27 PM   #13
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Good Day

Hey, I just went out and tried a lot of the stuff suggested here. I bought 3 different types of ammo all 150 gr, winchester, federal and remington. The Winchester worked best by far. At 100 hundred yards a I had a 10 shot group with most of the holes touching each other. I am now thrilled with my purchase. Thanks again.

The picture shows the 10 round group at 100 yards. The outlyer which is high was the first shot. Any ideas why that one shot would be so far out?
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Old November 30, 2008, 12:30 PM   #14
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It was just a flier, it happens. Keep checking different ammo you may be able to do better. Just see what your gun likes. Glad your are happy with your gun again.
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