Serial Number info for Winchester Model 94 - Page 3

PetahW · January 16, 2013, 11:35 PM

It's the Cody Museum that has most of the remaining records - but they don't gass for zip (IOW: wanna play, gotta pay).

http://www.bbhc.org/explore/firearms/firearms-records/

You'll have to pay them for a certification letter, which would also include the original config & maybe when/where it was originally shipped - but I'd WAG your .25-35 actually dates from 1896-7.

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torqueroll · January 17, 2013, 01:49 AM

Thank you, this is all good stuff.

roger05 · February 8, 2013, 05:04 PM

hello can some please help with these
4430016
4562840
5378405
5614841
V163517
YB4468
YB4687

PetahW · February 8, 2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by roger05

hello can some please help with these

4430016 - 1976
4562840 - 1977
5378405 - A 94AE, after 1982 - need more info
5614841 - Same as above
V163517 - Ditto
YB4468 - Ditto
YB4687 - Ditto

There are no SN records available for Winchester Model 94AE (Angle Eject) models, and I am unfamiliar with letter-prefixed Winchester 94 SN's. (I'm just not that into AE's)

The DOM can only be narrowed down and/or generalized with a full description of the rifle, including the presence of a crossbolt safety, no CBS, or no lawyer safety at all; chambering, barrel length & config (round, half-octagon, etc), and stock type.

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jimjakosh · March 31, 2013, 06:17 PM

I just joined this forum and really like the knowledge found here!!
I have a 1964 Winchester model 94- serial 2735504. It does not have a screw in the bottom like shown above. I was told that they converted from machined parts to stamped parts during that year. Can anyone tell me when the stamped parts began, like with what serial number? Rifles made with stamped parts are of much less value than the machined parts.
Thanks, Jim

Scorch · April 1, 2013, 02:06 PM

The changes occurred in late 1963. Any 1964 or later Model 94 is "post-'64". The changes included internal and external changes to make the firearm easier to manufacture. Some of the changes are: stamped (later cast) cartridge carriers, different receiver design to allow for fewer machining steps, use of screws for link pivots, coil spring instead of leaf mainspring, changes to bolt to make it easier to machine. There is not a lot about the post-64 guns that is "bad", they are just different from the pre-64 guns (and way different from the pre-WW2 guns).

PetahW · April 1, 2013, 08:06 PM

It's not only the various stamped parts, hollow roll pins, etc, that make post-64 Model 94's less desireable & less valuable than pre-64's.

During that change, Winchester also changed the way the receivers are made, switching from forged steel to a sintering process, that has a finish (on most models) that only looks like conventional bluing, but isn't.

They tend to show rust/pitting with only light handling/use - aka, as soon as you look at them.

The post-64 receivers were first plated, before they would take any additional finish(s), of which there were several: "blued", "color case hardened", black chrome, "Pewter", "Gold", "Silver", and Brass. (The last 5 finishes were mostly used on commemorative models)

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MikeSD · April 20, 2013, 03:52 PM

Might as well add my question. I have a Winchester 94AE, 45 Colt, SN 6,209,XXX. Post 2000 I would imagine but can anyone pin down the date any closer than that.

It's in very nice condition. The bluing is all there. The loading gate doesn't even have any scratches on it. No scratches on the finish. It almost looks unused based on the metal condition but I can tell it's been used and fired. Small dings and such in the wood. Overall very nice condition.

It's the 16" barrel with saddle ring. Anything you can tell me about it and it's value would be great.

Mike

Hawg Haggen · April 21, 2013, 07:00 PM

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It's the Cody Museum that has most of the remaining records - but they don't gass for zip (IOW: wanna play, gotta pay).

There's a dude here (Bert H.) that's a historian for the Cody Museum and has access to Winchester records. He can tell you anything you want to know about when one was made. http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/index.php

ROCKER · May 4, 2013, 01:03 AM

I have a winchester 32 special ser. no. 2787393 can anyone trll me when it was made?

Scorch · May 4, 2013, 01:46 AM

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winchester 32 special ser. no. 2787393

1964.

ROCKER · May 4, 2013, 11:50 PM

Thank you SCORCH

January 16, 2013, 11:35 PM	#51
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 3,285	It's the Cody Museum that has most of the remaining records - but they don't gass for zip (IOW: wanna play, gotta pay). http://www.bbhc.org/explore/firearms/firearms-records/ You'll have to pay them for a certification letter, which would also include the original config & maybe when/where it was originally shipped - but I'd WAG your .25-35 actually dates from 1896-7. . Last edited by PetahW; January 16, 2013 at 11:40 PM.

March 31, 2013, 06:17 PM	#55
jimjakosh Junior Member Join Date: March 30, 2013 Posts: 3	Winchester model 94 I just joined this forum and really like the knowledge found here!! I have a 1964 Winchester model 94- serial 2735504. It does not have a screw in the bottom like shown above. I was told that they converted from machined parts to stamped parts during that year. Can anyone tell me when the stamped parts began, like with what serial number? Rifles made with stamped parts are of much less value than the machined parts. Thanks, Jim

April 1, 2013, 02:06 PM	#56
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 11,039	The changes occurred in late 1963. Any 1964 or later Model 94 is "post-'64". The changes included internal and external changes to make the firearm easier to manufacture. Some of the changes are: stamped (later cast) cartridge carriers, different receiver design to allow for fewer machining steps, use of screws for link pivots, coil spring instead of leaf mainspring, changes to bolt to make it easier to machine. There is not a lot about the post-64 guns that is "bad", they are just different from the pre-64 guns (and way different from the pre-WW2 guns). __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Taylor Machine

May 4, 2013, 01:03 AM	#60
ROCKER Junior Member Join Date: March 23, 2013 Posts: 2	winchester 32 special I have a winchester 32 special ser. no. 2787393 can anyone trll me when it was made?

May 4, 2013, 11:50 PM	#62
ROCKER Junior Member Join Date: March 23, 2013 Posts: 2	32 SPECIAL Thank you SCORCH

January 17, 2013, 01:49 AM	#52
torqueroll Junior Member Join Date: January 13, 2013 Posts: 3	Thank you, this is all good stuff.

February 8, 2013, 05:04 PM	#53
roger05 Junior Member Join Date: February 7, 2013 Posts: 3	hello can some please help with these 4430016 4562840 5378405 5614841 V163517 YB4468 YB4687

April 1, 2013, 08:06 PM	#57
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 3,285	It's not only the various stamped parts, hollow roll pins, etc, that make post-64 Model 94's less desireable & less valuable than pre-64's. During that change, Winchester also changed the way the receivers are made, switching from forged steel to a sintering process, that has a finish (on most models) that only looks like conventional bluing, but isn't. They tend to show rust/pitting with only light handling/use - aka, as soon as you look at them. The post-64 receivers were first plated, before they would take any additional finish(s), of which there were several: "blued", "color case hardened", black chrome, "Pewter", "Gold", "Silver", and Brass. (The last 5 finishes were mostly used on commemorative models) .

April 20, 2013, 03:52 PM	#58
MikeSD Junior Member Join Date: January 2, 2013 Posts: 4	Might as well add my question. I have a Winchester 94AE, 45 Colt, SN 6,209,XXX. Post 2000 I would imagine but can anyone pin down the date any closer than that. It's in very nice condition. The bluing is all there. The loading gate doesn't even have any scratches on it. No scratches on the finish. It almost looks unused based on the metal condition but I can tell it's been used and fired. Small dings and such in the wood. Overall very nice condition. It's the 16" barrel with saddle ring. Anything you can tell me about it and it's value would be great. Mike