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Old September 16, 2008, 02:40 PM   #1
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Hk Vp70 Z

Can I safely fire +p or +p+ in it?
Will it feed hollow points reliably?
Can the trigger pull be improved?
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Old September 16, 2008, 03:49 PM   #2
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Yes.
Yes.
No.

Used to own one. Very accurate. Very reliable. HORRIBLE trigger.
Still, a very fun piece.
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Old September 16, 2008, 04:05 PM   #3
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Can the trigger pull be improved?
The answer to that question is "yes". It can be improved greatly. All you do is replace the stiker/firing pin spring with a Wolff's reduced power spring. It's an easy swap, and if you have a fine pin punch a smith doesn't even have to do it. The difference is huge. I did mine and the gun is much, much easier to shoot with no ignition problems with various primers. If you go to the HKPRO forum you will find that many if not most VP70Z owners have done the switch.

On my first VP70Z a gun smith told me how to clip a few coils and I got the same effect, but coil clipping isn't a particularly good idea.
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Old September 16, 2008, 05:32 PM   #4
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Will dry firing hurt it?
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Old September 16, 2008, 07:42 PM   #5
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I wanted one for years, found one once for 4400, no cash, never found another. Believe it or not, I liked the trigger. Nifty toy.
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Old September 16, 2008, 08:14 PM   #6
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I saw one for $400 once. The trigger felt like something on a cheap cordless drill.

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Old September 16, 2008, 08:33 PM   #7
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Wow! I did not know you could improve the trigger (it was many years ago) I might have kept mine.
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Old September 17, 2008, 11:08 AM   #8
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Will dry firing hurt it?
I seriously doubt it. The gun was built as the "Volks Pistol", one that could be operated by anyone and virtually indestructable.

The ramp front sight is kind of unique as well, the black bar created by a gap between two lighter bare steel bars built into the ramp. I've found the effectiveness of the front sight to vary with light conditions.
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Old September 17, 2008, 12:02 PM   #9
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+P+

I shoot +P only rarely in mine, and don't shoot +P+ in it. Too hard to replace if I get a major parts failure. I have some spares for it in the workshop, though. I also did the trigger job. Great pistol, high "gee whiz" factor.
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Old September 17, 2008, 03:22 PM   #10
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One concern I'd have over any +P+ is that fact that this is a blowback design which becomes problematic in higher calibers. They designed the rifling to be rather deep so as to bleed off a bit which reduces the muzzle velocity and probably assures that the gun will function as it should without risk. They probably also had in mind that the gun could see the use of 9mm subgun ammo which tends to be hot.
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Old September 17, 2008, 03:30 PM   #11
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Is this the one that has a burst option if the shoulder stock is attached?

I bet they're worth 5X more if they include the stock.
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Old September 17, 2008, 04:02 PM   #12
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No, the Z version is the Zivilian version. The three round burst stocked version that you're refering to is the HK VP70M.
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