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Old September 14, 2008, 02:00 PM   #1
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.32 magnum ballistics?

Anyone use this for SD?

Thanks.
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Old September 14, 2008, 02:33 PM   #2
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Yes. My pocket gun, mostly used for wintertime CCW in an outer coat pocket, is a S&W 432PD with CTC LaserGrips.

I use my shrinking stash of Georgia Arms 100gr SJHP ammunition. As I'm almost out of them, I really need to find someone else who duplicates this loading, with its 100gr @ ~1000fps numbers.

On the range, I use the Federal 95gr SWC.
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Old September 14, 2008, 09:17 PM   #3
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Thanks. I'd kind of like to try this round. Availability would be concern.

Now we have the .327. A solution in search of a problem?

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Old September 14, 2008, 10:46 PM   #4
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I use my shrinking stash of Georgia Arms 100gr SJHP ammunition. As I'm almost out of them, I really need to find someone else who duplicates this loading, with its 100gr @ ~1000fps numbers.
Why not just get more of it?

http://georgia-arms.com/new32handrma...point50pk.aspx
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Old September 15, 2008, 02:48 AM   #5
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Yep. Nice little pocket rocket.


S&W Model 432PD, .32 H&R Magnum
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Old September 15, 2008, 05:35 AM   #6
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Why not just get more of it?
I didn't realize they'd started making it again.

One thing I miss about moving to Indy: Georgia Arms doesn't set up tables at the shows here.
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Old September 15, 2008, 09:18 AM   #7
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Yeah, but...

You have St. Elmo's steakhouse, Scholar's Inn, Ambrosia (hope it's still around!! best lasagna bolognese I've ever had!), some mighty fine eatin'!!!! I miss Indiana, except for the nasty, slushy winters.

Oh, and Indianapolis has one of the densest concentrations of EXCELLENT public school music programs in the country!
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Old September 15, 2008, 09:45 AM   #8
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Now we have the .327. A solution in search of a problem?
Not from where I'm standing.
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Old September 15, 2008, 06:42 PM   #9
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One thing I miss about moving to Indy: Georgia Arms doesn't set up tables at the shows here.
If you're willing to drive a couple hours, they had a table set up at National Gun Day in Louisville last time I was there (I bought some 10mm from them). Have you been to the Indy 1500 yet? I could have sworn I saw them there too.
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Old September 15, 2008, 07:11 PM   #10
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Thanks. I'd kind of like to try this round. Availability would be concern.

Now we have the .327. A solution in search of a problem?

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It is not searching for anything, it's better than .38spl+p
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Old September 15, 2008, 08:10 PM   #11
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Thanks. I'd kind of like to try this round. Availability would be concern.

Now we have the .327. A solution in search of a problem?

Best,

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It is not searching for anything, it's better than .38spl+p
But what was wrong with .38 +P? Old Russian saying: Better is the enemy of good enough.
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Old September 16, 2008, 06:02 AM   #12
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But what was wrong with .38 +P?
There are some people who cannot handle repeated recoil from the .38+P. Typically people with arthritis or small hands have trouble enduring the recoil. It is only exacerbated by small, lightweight guns used for carry.

The .32 H&R Magnum is a good match in an Airweight snubby. It provides better-than .380 ballistics in a very lightweight six-shooter with low recoil. It's noisy, but about on a par with the .38.

The .327 Federal Magnum is a whole new animal. Operating at or over 40,000 psi, it's a high pressure load that produces a bunch o' gee-whiz at the muzzle. Recoil is still fairly mild by all reports (using a 3-inch SP101). The cartridge puts out a 115g Gold Dot JHP at an honest 1330 fps from a 3-1/16" tube producing more horsepower than most 9mm rounds. The 100gr JSP American Eagle load runs a tad faster at 1400 fps and produces the same kind of ballistics.

So...
More energy than the .38 +P - Check
More energy than the 9mm - Check
Less recoil than a .38 Special - Check
Six round, not five in a small frame - Check
High-speed load from short barrels - Check
Reliable Gold Dot ammo available - Check

What's not to like?
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Old September 16, 2008, 07:18 AM   #13
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A 115gr .32? That's a lotta sectional density, right there. I'll bet it gives good penetration numbers.
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Old September 16, 2008, 10:24 AM   #14
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Tamara, there was a ballistics gel test of the new 327 mag that showed up about a month or so ago. 115 grain Gold dot, full expansion to half an inch, penetrated 14-15 inches.

The sectional density and velocity of this round yield outstanding penetration in gel tests with great expansion, but I'm basing that statement on one gel test.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=384513

So far I have four boxes of the American Eagle 100 grain JSP (200 rounds total) and two boxes of the Speer 115 Gold Dots (40 rounds total) but no gun. My SP101 has been on backorder since the first week of March.
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Old September 16, 2008, 01:40 PM   #15
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The .327 mag. will fire a 115gr. bullet at 1300 fps, that's identical to the 9mm ballistics that've proven to be excellent stoppers.
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Old September 16, 2008, 08:33 PM   #16
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The .327 mag. will fire a 115gr. bullet at 1300 fps, that's identical to the 9mm ballistics that've proven to be excellent stoppers.
Most 9mm's top out at about 1300 fps in a four inch barrel while the .327 Mag 115gr is reported to be 1330 fps out of a 3-1/16" barrel (1380 fps/486 ft-lbs in a 4-inch).

The actual "power level" based on energy is closer to the .40 S&W round than 9mm or .38+P. If we can get more than two manufacturers (other than Ruger and Charter Arms) to chamber small wheelguns for the .327 Federal Magnum, it might actually become fairly common.

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Old September 17, 2008, 05:42 PM   #17
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It is not searching for anything, it's better than .38spl+p

Better how?
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Old September 17, 2008, 06:17 PM   #18
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But what was wrong with .38 +P?
I couldn't buy a six shot Ruger Single Six in .38 Special. I bought two of them over the years in .32 Magnum.

You couldn't buy the S&W 631 Kit Gun in six shots of .38 Special either.

I normally load my Rugers to about 80-85% capacity but Skeeter showed the 6.5" Single Six can take the 85 grain XTP bullet up to 1500 fps. That's some serious wallop in a .22 size handgun.

It always comes down to gun size for me. Same reason I love .44 Special. I can get it in guns that would be too small for .44 Magnum.
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Old September 18, 2008, 06:35 PM   #19
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So...

Anybody use the .32 mag for SD besides Tamara?
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Old September 18, 2008, 09:12 PM   #20
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I will as soon as my SP101 shows up.
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Old September 18, 2008, 09:13 PM   #21
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Anybody use the .32 mag for SD besides Tamara?
See post #5.
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Old September 21, 2008, 04:44 AM   #22
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I carry a 432PD. Mine is loaded with Federal's 85gr JHP.



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Old September 27, 2008, 02:19 PM   #23
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How loud is your 32 H&R?

I recently bought an SP 101 3" in 32 H&R Magnum. My dealer was still able to get one from his Ruger distributor although on their website Ruger shows both the 3 and 4 inch as discontinued. First impressions have been very good. Accuracy is VG. Low recoil. I'm using Federal 85 and 95 grain loads. This is a very good kit gun and woods gun in my opinion and would also serve in the capacity of a PD gun as average ME is at or near that of .38 standard pressure. Hotter loads such as available from Georgia Arms puts it in 38 +P range.

For those of you owning the 32 H&R do you find it to have a loud muzzle blast. Do you think its about at the 38 level? Maybe its just me, but it has quite a "crack" to it, although I think my 22 Mag. S&W snubbie is even louder.
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Old September 27, 2008, 09:01 PM   #24
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Now we have the .327. A solution in search of a problem?
Actually, I think the .327Mag is the solution to the 9mm/.40S&W snub revolver problem....and it solved it by creating a 6-shot, no-moon-clip snubgun with better ballistics. It's not a .357Mag, but it doesn't need to be....

Now, do they make speedloaders for them?....
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Old September 27, 2008, 09:13 PM   #25
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Yes there is s speedloader, it is the same one used for .32H&R and the
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