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Old August 26, 2008, 10:19 PM   #1
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Best 380 caliber on the market??

Hey guys !!! any recomendations on 380 calibers pistol? im loking for a very small light waight easy to cconceal pisto, l i thinking any 380 caliber hand gun you recomend????
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Old August 26, 2008, 11:18 PM   #2
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Depending on how you dress, . . . you might like the Bersa Thunder .380, . . . I do.

It is not a running pants, . . . silk shorts, . . . etc. type of concealable handgun, . . . but it disappears in my Wally World $10 jeans. Yes, . . . you can see there is a bulge in my front right pocket, . . . but is it a cell phone, two candy bars, roll of quarters, . . . only you know.

Mine is wickedly accurate, . . . 100% reliable, . . . shoots every type of ammo I have offered, . . . and started life with me for only $225. I also carry a spare magazine with it.

It is my back up CCW piece, . . . not my main carry (RIA 1911) but for the times I take it with me, . . . it is great.

I also have a shoulder holster for it, . . . wear it inside a short sleeve, tucked in shirt, . . . have never been made yet.

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Old August 27, 2008, 12:00 AM   #3
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"Best" is pretty subjective.
You might want to look at the Seecamp if your idea of best is expensive.
Or, the Ruger copy of the Keltec P3AT, or the Keltec.
The Keltec is the thinnest and lightest.
The other .380s are much larger and heavier than these three.
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Old August 27, 2008, 12:00 AM   #4
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The Bersa is a fine pistol, but not as small as the .380 mouseguns out now. If you have the money you can get a Seecamp LCS380, if not try a Ruger LCP or Keltec P3AT. The Beretta Tomcat has it's fans as well, and is pretty small.
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Old August 27, 2008, 12:15 AM   #5
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Several excellent .380 ACP handguns to choose from -- but really two categories:

True Pocket
Kel-Tec P3AT
Ruger LCP
NAA Guardian
Seecamp LWS380
Colt Pony & Mustang (discontinued but definitely worth picking up)

All of these guns will serve well for their intended use.

Compact
Bersa Thunder 380 or Concealed Carry
Walther PPK
Sig P232
CZ 83
Beretta 84 or 85
Colt Government (discontinued but definitely worth picking up)

These are excellent offerings and some of the best available IMO.

Will be interesting to see where the new Kahr P380 fits into the mix
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Old August 27, 2008, 01:34 AM   #6
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The Bersa .380 has a devoted following and a reputation for reliabilty. I always root for Bersa because my first pistol was a Bersa Firestorm 9mm. Bersa is hard to beat on a quality per dollar basis, imo.
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Old August 27, 2008, 07:29 AM   #7
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What about the new PPK's from Smith & Wesson?

The Doc is out now.
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Old August 27, 2008, 07:39 AM   #8
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I have owned an Interarms PPK, Bersa Thunderer, Kel tec p3at and now own a Sig P232. The Interarms was a good gun, but bit the hand something fierce and was a bit on the heavy side. The Bersa was the cheaper of the three and frankly I didn't like mine much. The slide started digging into the frame and the gun just felt cheap. It also only came with one mag and a spare was ridiculously priced. The kel tec was crap and just jammed and jammed. The Sig is a great firearm and well made. I have the blued version with an aluminum frame and it is relatively lightweight and has a great grip to it.

I have heard owners of the Beretta 84 praise their guns and from the few I have handled at the store, they felt great.
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Old August 27, 2008, 07:44 AM   #9
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In case fc911 does a search... it's LWS 380 if you're looking at the Seecamp. IMHO the best made is the Beretta 84/85, but it isn't the smallest or easiest to conceal.
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im loking for a very small light waight easy to cconceal pisto
That honor then goes to the Seecamp. Best, smallest, easiest to conceal comes at a price.
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Old August 27, 2008, 08:18 AM   #10
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The Bersa Thunder Compact gets 5 stars from me, It's small, light, reliable, and accurate. It can be carried a couple of different safe ways. Fun and easy to shoot. Multiple taps on target are a cinch.
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Old August 27, 2008, 02:40 PM   #11
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Just picked up this Bersa Thunder .380 yesterday. Its definitely the smallest and least expensive handgun that I currently own, besides a Keltec that I dont use. I'll post a report after I take it to the range for a session. I can say the plastic grips does make it feel cheap though, maybe some wood grips will feel better. The internals look pretty good though. Its no where near the best .380 out there. I bought it because of its size and couldnt beat the price. Not my photo, its the one that was in the ad.
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Old August 27, 2008, 02:46 PM   #12
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I have several .380 handguns and by far my favorite is the Walther PPK in stainless. It is excellent for CCW and is accurate enough for plinking. Second on my list is the Colt Mustang series.
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Old August 27, 2008, 03:13 PM   #13
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I love my Thunder! I didn't like the plastic grips, either. Check eBay. There are usually several sets of nice wooden grips for the Thunder on there. The wood grips are usually a little thicker and make it seem more like a "real gun".
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Old August 27, 2008, 08:36 PM   #14
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A 9mm. (.380 = 9x17, 9mm = 9x19)

The Bersa is not bad, the Walther PPK is the best, but it's heavy.
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Old August 27, 2008, 08:56 PM   #15
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My carry... with genuine ivory grips just to amuse the nature lovers!

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Old August 27, 2008, 09:08 PM   #16
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I'm going to have to vote for the Beretta 85.

Either in blue/plastic:



or nickel/wood:



That Colt Mustang looks like a brick in comparison, no?

For conceal-ability, nothing can beat the new Ruger LCP:

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Old August 27, 2008, 09:13 PM   #17
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Smaug: I'm going to have to vote for the Beretta 87.
Beretta 87 is a .22lr

Beretta 84 & 85 are the .380's.
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Old August 27, 2008, 09:13 PM   #18
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Any of the Eastern Block 380 makrovs are a excellent buy that can be had for reasonable money.I went to a gun show last weekend and they were going for $115-$250 a copy according to what table to were checking.
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Old August 27, 2008, 09:35 PM   #19
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I am going to have to say either the Walther PPK, or the NAA/Seecamp .380.
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Old August 27, 2008, 09:43 PM   #20
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My Bersa has been great. No votes for the CZ83? Traded away my LCP. Too small for me but it shot well. I bought into the hype with disregard for my extra large meat hooks. Look at the Bersa CC if you want a smaller gun but have large hands.

Notice I did not suggest a 9mm.

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Old August 27, 2008, 10:43 PM   #21
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That Colt Mustang looks like a brick in comparison, no?
Smaug, if you are referring to surg_res' ivory gripped Colt pictured above, then that makes you 1 for 3 tonight as it is a Government and not a Mustang

Reality will change your mind after you actually compare a Government to a Beretta 85 in your hand.
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Old August 28, 2008, 02:13 AM   #22
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Best 380

Clearly the very best 380 is the CZ 83. It is by far the easiest gun for most people to make hits with and I believe that only the hits count. It is extremely sturdy and reliable. I will concede that the SIG 232 is better looking but it is not necessarily the better gun. The Berreta frequently has cracked magazine lips. Look at the top of any Berreta 84 magazine in the rental rack of your local range. The Bersa is a bargain gun at a very good bargain price. I like them but the CZ is far more durable.
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Old August 28, 2008, 02:26 AM   #23
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Ruger LCP

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Do a search for Ruger LCP on this, or any forum and you'll see overwhelmingly positive response. And you'll see plenty of Kel Tec converts, and many more who now use their Bersas for paperweights.
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Old August 28, 2008, 07:08 AM   #24
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I own both a Keltec P3at and a Russian makrov .380. The Keltec conceals easily, but the 'mak' is a lot more fun to shoot. It has an adj rear sight and a very light 'sa' trigger pull. Very accurate out to about 50 yds with handloads. Since it was the st'd sidearm for a lot of foreign coutries, it is a very safe and reliable handgun.
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Old August 28, 2008, 08:43 AM   #25
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The Berreta frequently has cracked magazine lips.


Can you back that statement up with any references?
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