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Old August 4, 2008, 10:58 PM   #1
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Best .45 Round for Self-Defense???

There doesn't seem to be a forum for newbies, so here goes...

I have an HK Tactical with an M-6 tactical light.

I have it in my bed stand for self-defense.

I would like to get the opinion of those here about the following: What do the members consider to be the best .45 round for self-defense?

Yes, I know that everyone has a different opinion, but I’d really like to hear what those opinions are!!!

Side Question: Would your answer change if I was using a .45 other than an HK Tactical?
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Old August 4, 2008, 11:04 PM   #2
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I really like CorBon DPX 185gr +P jhp, Speer Goldot 200gr +P jhp, and Hornady TAP 230 gr jhp.
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Old August 4, 2008, 11:14 PM   #3
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CorBon DPX 185gr +P jhp, is in all my 45acp DPX in all my 9mm and 380 also.
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Old August 4, 2008, 11:27 PM   #4
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You'll get a lot of opinions, but you can't do any better than a load on this list:

http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bi...;f=78;t=000964

These have all passed the FBI's requirement for penetration through various barriers. Here's the list if the link won't work:

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Barnes XPB 185 gr JHP (copper bullet)
Federal HST 230 gr JHP (P45HST2)
Federal HST 230 gr +P JHP (P45HST1)
Federal Tactical 230 gr JHP (LE45T1)
Speer Gold Dot 230 gr JHP
Winchester Ranger-T 230 gr JHP (RA45T)
Winchester Ranger-T 230 gr +P JHP (RA45TP)
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Old August 4, 2008, 11:39 PM   #5
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I have no idea what the 'best' .45 ACP ammo is

I like the Winchester Ranger-T 230-grain SXT, Hornaday 230 grain XTP and 230 grain Rem Golden Saber in that order, but after all its a .45 ACP so any of the premium HP ammo that functioned well and shot accurately in your pistol would be good for defense.
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Old August 5, 2008, 12:02 AM   #6
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Okay, I've got an embarrassing newbie question!!

What does ACP mean?
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Old August 5, 2008, 12:02 AM   #7
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I use 230gr JHP Gold Dots and I really like them.
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Old August 5, 2008, 12:13 AM   #8
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Old August 5, 2008, 08:05 AM   #9
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+1 on the 230gr Gold Dots, I prefer the Doubletap loading http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...products_id=95
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Old August 6, 2008, 11:39 PM   #10
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MagSafe 96gr +p Prefragmented round. Look online for balistics gel test it is amazing.. will blow your mind.
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Old August 6, 2008, 11:44 PM   #11
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I use Horniday TAP CQ LE or horniday custom extream penetrater. Both in 230 grain and +p
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Old August 6, 2008, 11:53 PM   #12
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Double tap Gold Dots, in either 230 grain or 200 grain, honorable mention if going to biafra, 185 grain Gold Dots:
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185gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1225fps - 12.75" / .82"
200gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1125fps - 14.25" / .88"
230gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1010fps - 15.25" / .95"
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Old August 7, 2008, 11:15 AM   #13
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My Springer Loaded Champion is my nightstand gun ... I like Corbon DPX, but my gun doesn't ... it's loaded with 165gr +p Pow'RBall ammunition ... my new carry gun, a Kimber Ultra Carry II, loves 230gr Golden Sabers, so that's what I use ...
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Old August 7, 2008, 11:35 AM   #14
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+1 on what MTS840 suggested. There isn't enough difference performance between those that made the list to worry about. Of those my personal choice is the Federal HST 230 gr +P JHP (P45HST1) because of performance, the very reasonable price, and low muzzle flash. You should be able to pick them up for ~$24 for a 50rd box online. Whatever you choose be sure to break in your pistol with 100-200rds of cheap Walmart practice ammo and then test feed and function with at least 100 rounds of your chosen self defense ammo before you rely on it.

This assumes any 45ACP pistol with a barrel length of 4" and above. Below 4" I would go with the expensive specialty "Speer Gold Dot For Short Barreled Pistols".

On a different note I also strongly suggest budging roughly $250 (w/ammo) for a full day of training.
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Old August 7, 2008, 02:52 PM   #15
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I wouldn't be surprised if one would work about as well as another. The DPX however, did impress me with its accuracy. This is a 160 grain bullet fired into water jugs. It looks just like the dpx 180 grain bullets when recovered.


I've shot some 9mm dpx in the three inch barrel lenght and the bullets expand just the same as from longer barrels(shot through raw beef brisket). I also get really good accuracy and consistent expansion with The various loadings of the speer gold dot.

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Old August 7, 2008, 03:17 PM   #16
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I use DPX and HST. DPX for now until I use up my current supply and then I will only use HST.

I cycle my defense ammo every 2 months (1 magazine). Can't afford to keep doing that with Corbon...only 20 rounds per box.
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Old August 7, 2008, 05:08 PM   #17
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I'm partial with the Taurus Hex 185. However, I just bought a few hundred rounds of Corbon DPX 160 on sale to see if my G36 likes 'em.

I'm always on the lookout for any deals on the list MTS840 posted. I bought a box of the LE45T1 just for funsies and I had to borrow a hand from the guy next to me to help hold on to the weapon. Yessuh....
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Old August 7, 2008, 06:20 PM   #18
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I use a Golden Saber on top of 8.2 grains of HS-6. Haven't shot a factory load in 30 years. That load won't jar your eye-teeth loose, shoots straight, and will kill anything human.
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Old August 7, 2008, 06:47 PM   #19
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Which goldensaber?
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Old August 7, 2008, 06:58 PM   #20
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It depends on how much time you have spent firing this weapon / how much time you have invested in at least some basic defensive shooting skills - but in general, I would pick any .45 acp cartridge, a jacketed hollow point preferably, in a 230 gr bullet. I don't think the brand is that important.

If you have trouble shooting that load in your weapon that back off to something with a little lighter bullet - and always carry a round that gives you a lot of confidence / just like you should choose a weapon to carry based on your confidence in your ability to make the weapon perform, all the features like the safety, etc just feel the best to you.

In my carry 1911 - I currently have Winchester Ranger 230 gr JHP's in it and the extra mag - but I've carried Gold Dots, etc in the past as well. I have never had to draw the weapon / and hope I never do - but I shoot it almost weekly, just in case ( and everything on a good 1911 fits me like a good well worn glove ).
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Old August 7, 2008, 07:22 PM   #21
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What he ^ said.

The best round is the one you know feeds reliably in your weapon and that you can hit the target with.

Try several brands out. See what works for you accuracy wise. Then run enough of them through the gun to know it likes them.

Hornady TAP 230 gr and WWB 230 gr tend to feed the .45's around here.
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Old August 8, 2008, 09:27 AM   #22
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230 grain +P Federal HSTs
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Old August 8, 2008, 10:24 AM   #23
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MagSafe 96gr +p Prefragmented round. Look online for balistics gel test it is amazing.. will blow your mind



Pick a load from the list MTS840 posted above...


I personally prefer 230gr Ranger T and Golden Sabers for my .45s
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Old August 8, 2008, 10:51 AM   #24
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Federal HST 230gr. for any .45acp if they feed properly.
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Old August 8, 2008, 05:58 PM   #25
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What ever feeds reliably and hits accurately.

Doesn't matter how good the rep or the paper ballistics are if they don't work in your gun, or shoot to point of aim.

I would rather have a gun filled with GI ball 230gr fmj @850fps that works reliably and hits where I aim than any super duper JHP that doesn't.

Test them out in your gun. THEN make a decision. Otherwise, you're just guessing.
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