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Old July 24, 2008, 02:26 PM   #51
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use Pyrodex mainly because it's a lot cheaper than anything else, 10 bucks per pound cheaper than 777.
Here, it's Pyro $14/bottle/ 777 is $19. Using 10 percent less 777 brings the price difference pretty close per load.
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Old July 24, 2008, 02:43 PM   #52
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Here it's 16 and 26 but you get more Pyro because it's lighter.
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Old July 25, 2008, 03:42 AM   #53
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The Hogdon website for 777 ffg says to use 15% less than a volume of Black Powder.
Also do not put fillers or wads between powder and ball asking for a catastrophic condition.

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Old July 25, 2008, 04:04 AM   #54
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The Hogdon website for 777 ffg says to use 15% less than a volume of Black Powder.
Also do not put fillers or wads between powder and ball asking for a catastrophic condition.

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That means that since I normally use between 30-35gr. FFFG Goex in my Remington copies I should use between 25-29gr. 777 FFFG in them right?

I'm asking because I've never used 777 in any of my C&B Revolvers & just recently started to expiriment with it in my Bobcat & I just want to make sure that my math is right "don't want to blow something up ya know."
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Old July 25, 2008, 06:13 AM   #55
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25 gr of fffg 777 should be a max load in your Remington.

Smokin' Gun: the warning on Hodgdon's site against using wads or filler with 777 applies to cartridge loads, not loading a percussion cylinder or a muzzleloader.
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Old July 25, 2008, 09:22 AM   #56
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777 questions...

I've read that you should NOT compress 777, either. Is that true and, if so, how do you control compression with an underlever rammer?

Also, when you get down to small 777 loads, do they start getting squirrelly as far as ballistics and consistency? I'll be putting as little as 10-13 g of 777 in my pocket Navy, which shoots accurately with 17-18 gr of fffg. (I might have to add filler, BTW.)

I would think there are some brass framed replicas (.44 '51 Navy by Pietta) that could get their worlds rocked by 25 g of 777.

BTW, i avoid the brass framed stuff 'cause of it's historical dubiousness, but I handled at .36 cal. '51 Pietta with a brass frame the other day that was very nicely finished. If the guy would have been reasonable about the price, I might have bought it.
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Old July 25, 2008, 01:12 PM   #57
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With an underbarrel loading lever and using 777, just push the lever down until it stops moving. Don't use any more force than necessary to start the ball down the chamber, and when it stops, stop pushing.
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Old July 25, 2008, 11:54 PM   #58
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I should use between 25-29gr. 777 FFFG in them right?
I ain't sayin ta use 777 ffg but the Rem would take your figures and the math os correct, 28gr broke my 1860 Pietta...shot 3 rounds musta knockk the wedge out. 4th round felt funny_stapped the two locating pin off at the frame. Made sone new pins after drillin out the broken ones. Works ok now for a 10yr old Pietta.
Jus' be careful with that stuff.

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