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Old June 16, 2008, 12:31 AM   #1
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Reloading 130 grain for .300 Weatherby Magnum

I was thinking about reloading for 130 grain in my .300 Weatherby Vanguard. ( I just got my Lyman T Mag II Turret kit today). There were a couple guys that told me 130 grain bullets wouldnt be wise for the .300 weatherby mag as its too short and wont be close enough to the lands to be accurate. However I see them in the powder charts. The Hornady 130 grain SP is what I want to load. I also want to load 180 grain but thats somethign different.
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Old June 16, 2008, 02:52 AM   #2
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I have a friend who shoots the 300 Win Mag, he tried some 150 and they were not so good. Someone at the shop he deals with (brought rifle from) informed him he needed to start with 180gr bullets and work up from there to find the best for his rifle (AR-30 I believe).
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Old June 16, 2008, 12:00 PM   #3
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The readings of factory 130 ammo across a chronograph are WOOOOOOOOONDERFULLLLL, but all that unburned powder escaping past the bullet will not add to accuracy. Handloading will not put you anywhere near the velocity of the factory load velocities, because they use a powder blends not available to the public.

180 gr bullets are generally the bullet weight to shoot in the 300Wthrby.
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Old June 16, 2008, 11:02 PM   #4
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My rifle doesnt care for 150 grains. 180 are pretty good. I havent tried 200 or higher yet in it.

I was thinking of loading some varmint rounds for it but it sounds like its not a good idea. I just saw the 130 grain in the book and thought Id try it.
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Old June 20, 2008, 09:43 AM   #5
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Nosler has some load data on their website for their 125gr Ballistic Tip for the 300 Weatherby.
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Old June 20, 2008, 02:09 PM   #6
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If 150s don't work but 180s do, it might be the twist is on the fast side. If so, the problem would be worse with 130- or 125-grain bullets. So, check your twist rate and do some cogitating...
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Old June 20, 2008, 04:38 PM   #7
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300 Weatherby

I have owned and shot several Weatherby rifles over the years. Including 300's. The 300 is a great cartridge. However every one we have shot and loaded for preferred the heavy for caliber bullets. We found this to be true for all our Weatherby's. Including the 340, and the 7mm.

Remember that Weatherby cartridges gain a little more velocity because of their free bore. So a shorter bullet does have to make a longer jump to get to the rifling. However if you load properly with no run out then you can solve that problem.

You have a 300 Weatherby so let the big dog eat. A 180 or 200 grain bullet is the bullet of choice. Roy designed his rifles(according to his son at the SHOT show) for the larger for caliber bullets. If you want to shoot the light bullets then you should probably rebarrel your rifle.

This is not to say that the Weatherby's will not shoot the lighter bullets. But my experience concurs with Roy that they love the bigger bullets. Tom.
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Old June 20, 2008, 05:20 PM   #8
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I have loaded 125 gr. for my 300 Win Mag. Just to try it out. But it's not my load for every day range work. Oddley enough my Rem 700 shoots cheep 150 gr. almost as well as 190 gr HPBT. That’s part of the fun of reloading.
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Old June 20, 2008, 08:00 PM   #9
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I got the 300 weatherby for larger bullets and longer distance with knockdown at further ranges. I prefer to shoot 180 grain at the range. I go to the range 3 times a week and shoot 180 grain. I just thought Id try the 130s to see what they would do and to open up the possibility of 130 grain if possible. I am more than happy with the grouping with 180 grain.
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Old June 20, 2008, 08:26 PM   #10
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If I remember my Weathrby history, Roy was simply a stock maker with a nack for marketing. A German Engineer named Kliengunther designed the action and barrel to Roy's liking, and they were made for Weatherby and he assembled them with his great looking stocks.

I believe Kliengunther thought the Weatherby was a POS, because the only one of the 9 lugs would actually lock, and Weatherby would not spend the extra time and money to true the action so at least 3 of the lugs were locked, much less the 9.
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Old June 21, 2008, 04:42 PM   #11
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Thats probably about how 90 percent of everything gets invented/manufactured.
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Old June 21, 2008, 06:41 PM   #12
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???

Yes BB I am with you. I did not understand the post myself. But I did not want to start any arguments in your post. John Browning designed the Winchester 1885, but he did not invent the 45-70?? Tom.
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Old June 22, 2008, 04:07 PM   #13
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I loaded some 130 grain rounds the other day and tried them out. IMR4831 72.8 grains, 130 grain hornady sp #3020 with a CCI primer large rifle magnum. I put 5 rounds at 100 yards in about 2 1/2 inches. I did not measure it but it was roughly 2 1/2. Thats close enough for coyotes isn't it. Im going to load 10 more rounds with 2 groups of different powder charges. I think I may try a slower one and a faster one to see which shoots better and try to fine tune it from there. With 180 grain I can pretty much get them all in an inch and a half. Usually quite a bit tighter than that when I have a good day. This day the wind was a bit breezy so it may have made my shooting a little better lol.
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Old June 26, 2008, 01:31 AM   #14
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I went to the range today and with 3 sandbags I shot 3 rounds into .838 according to my digital caliper.

Thats the best measured 3 round group Ive shot. It could be attributed to my poor shooting skills and be chocked up to luck. My second best was 1.178 inch group. That was best 2 out of 3 with 130 grain hornady #3020 with IMR4831 and 69.8 grains of powder. Thats a bit better than I shot before.

Im going to load some 180 and 200 loads and see what I do at the bench.

I shot offhand a few times and was withing a few circles shooting quickly. Im sure that if under stressful circumstances Id shoot much more poorly. I am well aware of the pounding heartbeat that offsets the practice at the range.

It was OOO one of those type groups pretty much. The werent perfectly even but they were pretty much in a line.
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Old July 3, 2008, 04:28 AM   #15
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300 win mag

i own a .300 win mag and have loaded both 125 gr nosler BT and 130 gr speer hollow points. they shoot ok but 180 to 200gr shoot the best with fps pushing 3000. If you want to shoot light bullets like that in a .30 cal a .308win would of been rifle of choice.
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Old July 3, 2008, 09:50 AM   #16
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I've been told by more experienced guys than me that to get the best accuracy out of my Vanguard, I need to run 180 grain bullets. I tested some reloads yesterday with 178 grain A-Max bullets (it was my first, starting charge for this combination) with 74 grains of H4831SC, Remington brass, and a CCI Magnum primer... first group was bad (it was me, I'd forgotten about all that wonderful recoil)... second group, all went in one hole (it was a rough one, a cloverleaf) ... so I think I'm done... first time was a charm. Now to work up a load with a hunting bullet in it.
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Old July 4, 2008, 02:04 AM   #17
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180gr nosler accubond

I loaded the 180gr nosler accubond with 76gr of RE-19 pushing it out with a win mag primer. Load is a maxium load so please dont start off at that. There are no signs of pressure eg, flatterened primers or hard ejection. They push out at around 3000fps of my winchester model 70. A lethel load for our local sambar deer and other big game. Very useful on pigs but yes its too much gun, but good practice anyhow. Once again please dont start on this load as it is a MAXIUM suggested load from my manual. I started on 73.5 and worked my way up half grain at a time. The Accubond is a long bullet so it does take up powder space in the cartridge. Load density of about 98% is ideal but the gun dealer didnt have RE-25 at the time which i normally use with 81gr, SLOWER BURNING therefore better load density. Happy Reloading.
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