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Old May 29, 2008, 12:38 PM   #26
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"When I get undressed at night it is like disarming Germany."

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Old May 29, 2008, 04:41 PM   #27
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Been carrying a knife every day for 30 years or more ... my favorite is a Ka-Bar 3-inch Dozier Design folder ... also carry a Spyderco Byrd or a new knife I picked up from Russell's, a Boker ... quit carrying a Kershaw Chive a while back when the safety failed, the blade opened a bit in my pocket and I almost cut off a finger ... 8 stitches to put the tip back together ... I use whatever I'm carrying every day for something, and I guess in a pinch, they might be helpful against BGs if the gun runs dry and I missed ...
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Old May 29, 2008, 06:04 PM   #28
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+1 for the Benchmade Griptillian. I have the 550 model which is now quite worn and has been discontinued. I also carry a Benchmade CBK push dagger on occasion. There are a couple of other blades in my drawer but I use these the most.
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Old May 29, 2008, 06:30 PM   #29
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If my pants are on... I've got a knife. Like many on here, I grew up carrying a knife. They're such handy critters, hard to imagine folks not having one. I carry a SOG spring assist, or a Buck spring assist, or an old school biker favorite... Buck 110
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Old May 29, 2008, 06:40 PM   #30
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I carry a back up gun. I am NOT going to pull a knife to fight it out with some guy armed with a gun, if I run out of rounds.
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Old May 29, 2008, 08:00 PM   #31
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I carry a Ken Onion Leek with Assisted Opening; however, I'll soon be switching to the black shallot version within the line. I own three Ken Onion's already; they are great knives.
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Old May 29, 2008, 11:19 PM   #32
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I think the days of the 'throw down piece' are definitely over. DNA can raise too many interesting questions.
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Old May 29, 2008, 11:32 PM   #33
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It could, if you normally got DNA on your gun, which you don't unless you shed, slobber, or bleed on it.
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Old May 29, 2008, 11:54 PM   #34
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bikerbill wrote:
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quit carrying a Kershaw Chive a while back when the safety failed, the blade opened a bit in my pocket and I almost cut off a finger
Funny story:
I also have a chive. I used to carry it alot.
I never set the safety on any of my knives and it's never a problem - except for the chive. I don't like the safety because it defeats the purpose of an assisted-open knife.

A few years ago, while Christmas shopping, I was standing at the counter at store buying a gift for my wife. Upon reaching into my right front pocket to grab my bank card (I didn't carry a wallet at the time, just my card and ID in a pocket) I discovered my chive had popped open (again).

A more accurate way of saying this would be : Upon removing my hand from my pocket I discovered it was open.

When this happens the knife blade opens to about 45 deg, blade pointing downward.
At first I felt a burning sensation on the back of my hand, I kinda knew what had happened, but thought I just scraped the blade against my skin pretty hard.
As I gave the girl at the counter my card, I realized I had basically filleted the back of my hand, above my pinky.
It was one of those cuts that took a couple of seconds to start bleeding real good.
As she rung me up - which seemed like it took forever - I just tried to keep a straight face as blood ran down my finger and dripped onto their floor (bleeding alot at this point).
When I left and looked at it more closely, I realized I came extremely close to opening a large vein, which would have made it much harder to keep my cool.
Probably could have used a few stitches, but I don't know if they stitch flaps of skin like that.

The moral of the story:
Be careful with Ken Onion Chives!!
They seem to pop open in your pocket alot.
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Old May 30, 2008, 12:36 AM   #35
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Knives are tools. Can they be used for defense? Yes, but you would be better off with a screwdriver.
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Old May 30, 2008, 01:57 PM   #36
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Knives are tools. Can they be used for defense? Yes, but you would be better off with a screwdriver.
Wow, I would say that is totally wrong. A screwdriver can stab, but so can a knife. A knife can cut, but a screwdriver cannot. If you are thinking of a poorly made knife that won't take the same types of impacts associated with a fight that a screwdriver can, I am not. A well made knife (especially a fixed blade) can handle any defensive situation a screwdriver can.
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Old May 30, 2008, 02:38 PM   #37
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I'm very familiar with modern (and antique) knives of all types. I design, make, and repair them.
Knives are not good defensive tools, period. Certainly they can be used for defense. So can an ink pen.
What bothers me about these posts is that many people feel they could actually use a knife effectively for defense. These are usually the same people who espouse that carrying any gun under .40 cal will get you killed.
A knife is a poor choice for defense compared to a .25 automatic.
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Old May 30, 2008, 02:55 PM   #38
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everyday on and off duty. a benchmade mini reflex auto knife. front right pocket off duty, right side cargo pocket o duty
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Old May 30, 2008, 03:03 PM   #39
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Knives are not good defensive tools, period. Certainly they can be used for defense. So can an ink pen.
What bothers me about these posts is that many people feel they could actually use a knife effectively for defense. These are usually the same people who espouse that carrying any gun under .40 cal will get you killed.
A knife is a poor choice for defense compared to a .25 automatic.
I would agree with your last statement. Nearly any gun is better than a knife, and I am not one to say anything less than a .40 is zero. But in the post I was commenting about, you didn't compare a knife to a mousegun, you compared it to a screwdriver. That is where we disagree.
I would agree that it is bothersome when people think owning a knife makes them an expert in knife defensive tactics, but the same could be said about owning a screwdriver! My point is that for the same amount of training, I would rather have a good sturdy knife to defend myself than a screwdriver, but I would still take a gun over either.
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Old May 30, 2008, 03:04 PM   #40
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I'm very familiar with modern (and antique) knives of all types. I design, make, and repair them.
Knives are not good defensive tools, period. Certainly they can be used for defense. So can an ink pen.
What bothers me about these posts is that many people feel they could actually use a knife effectively for defense. These are usually the same people who espouse that carrying any gun under .40 cal will get you killed.
A knife is a poor choice for defense compared to a .25 automatic.
I agree with you 100%, but I think spamanon was referring to your statement that you'd be better off with a screwdriver.

As for me, I carry a Ka-bar Dozier folder every day. My first knife ever; I got it back when I was 15.
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Old May 30, 2008, 03:50 PM   #41
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I dropped a nice German-made folding knife I had bought on sale and couldn't make myself by an equally expensive again. I called around to the places I had been to that day, but, nope, no knife. I bought a Japanese-made knife at a gun show later and the grip, blade and price were all good. It's more or less impossible to inflict damage on a pitbull with your bare hands, and especially if they are two or more. To reload a revolver with a pitbull hanging from your wrist will not be easy. A knife can be useful in such a situation, along with opening packages.
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Old May 30, 2008, 04:37 PM   #42
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I always carry a decent folding knife on or off duty (Spyderco Endura or Chinook). On duty, I think a backup gun is wise. Off duty, I don't.
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Old May 30, 2008, 05:04 PM   #43
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I carry this Henckels 4 blade stockman pocketknife 99% of the time with me, except mine has a buffalo horn handle.

About 75% of the time I also carry my Gerber multi-tool, but that really can't be termed defensive, although it has a small blade.

About 10% of the time I carry my old and worn Buck 110, especially when hiking/fishing/camping/hunting. Served me well over the last 30+ years, and still in great shape as far as use, but I have so many things hanging from my belt I usually forgo it around town now.
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Old May 30, 2008, 06:12 PM   #44
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I carry a Smith 642 as a BUG to my Glock27. I have carried a knife for years even before a gun. Currently I carry either a Cold Steel Safemaker III that I wear as a neck knife or a Kabar TDI small size worn on belt. I also have a Benchmade folder with a 3.5 inch balde that stays in the drawer most days now.
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Old May 30, 2008, 06:25 PM   #45
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So you personally know cops who carry 'throwdown' pieces,
buddy of mine back in NY does. he calls it his "disposable" gun.
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Old May 31, 2008, 01:35 AM   #46
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I carry a CKRT m16 knife with about a 4 inch blade everywhere. mostly just because I need a decent knife for everyday cutting chores but it's big and sharp enough to
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Old May 31, 2008, 11:48 AM   #47
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I was going to comment on the foolishness of "throwdown" weapons, but decided it's obvious.

I encourage every cop to carry a backup while on-duty. One major consideration is we all tend to focus on the other guy's weapon and we will both probably shoot at it. So . . . if we get hit in the hand or the handgun, a backup could make the difference.

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Old May 31, 2008, 04:01 PM   #48
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On whether or not knives may be used effectively to fight with:

Of course they can. Which is not to say that all people, all knives, or all supposed "knife fighting" techniques lend themselves well to the prospect.

For example, someone who knows his way around a boxing gym would be a devastating opponent in close with a push knife in his fist. It would be fighting with a knife, all right, and damned right it would be effective, even without much resembling what many consider to be "knife fighting."

Or another, this time with a mixed martial artist looking to ground and pound someone having introduced a conveniently located small fixed blade. Again, not much like "knife fighting" in the minds of many, but effective? Yep.

But, perhaps even more true than Cooper's quote would be it adapted for knives:

"Owning a knife doesn’t make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician.”
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Old May 31, 2008, 10:04 PM   #49
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I carry a Camillus Heat to work most days. Its a handy tool to have even in the office environment - used it this week to pry the lid off the battery compartment on a safe at work.

Cut the plastic tag on some reading glasses my wife bought this afternoon.

When I walk the dogs I like to slip a Camillus Cuda Maxx in my pocket. Of course thats not for self defense either cause self defense isn't allowed in Kalifornia.
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Old June 1, 2008, 03:22 PM   #50
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When I am carrying weapons openly "give me a knife like Bowies" and I want it to say "Ranvall made" on the blade.
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