Any .22LR full auto?

**hogdogs** · May 23, 2008, 03:21 PM

I wouldn't ever want a bunch of full auto stuff due to lack of need but I am wondering if there is an available .22 rifle in full auto?
Brent

zxcvbob · May 23, 2008, 03:29 PM

Yes, I think it's called the "American 180". Has a drum magazine that holds up to 270 rounds. I want one.

tomh1426 · May 23, 2008, 03:38 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE888XOS12U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abTGA...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N0cEAR1zmc&NR=1

SDC · May 23, 2008, 03:46 PM

There have been a bunch of full-auto 22s made in the past (rifles, handguns, and miniaturized MGs), the trouble is finding a registered one that the current owner wants to sell. The American 180 is one option, but you can also find 10/22s that were converted with "trigger packs", and these use comonly-available magazines (the AM180 drums have a reputation for being finicky and are a PITA to service). You may even be able to find a Gevarm open-bolt 22 if you look long enough, but those have a cyclic rate of ~1100 rpm, so you wear the skin off your thumbs loading mags in no time at all.

ISC · May 23, 2008, 04:00 PM

Aren't there also .22 conversions for M16s available?

PTK · May 23, 2008, 04:02 PM

Norell still sells 10/22 conversions for $8k last I checked.

VUPDblue · May 24, 2008, 07:53 AM

I have a .22 for my M16...1200rpm of rimfire lovin' !!!

Firepower! · May 24, 2008, 10:18 AM

Have you checked out Skorpion?

Ruthless4christ · May 24, 2008, 01:20 PM

the other day u saw a tec 9 in .22. not sure if it was fullautoor not butim surethere has got to be a way...

tomh1426 · May 24, 2008, 04:00 PM

I like youtube sometimes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8rnLxIWGro

PTK · May 25, 2008, 08:56 AM

tomh1426, Ruthless4christ,

Converting items to FA without having a SOT is illegal. There is no way "simple civilians" can get post-1986 MGs.

Crosshair · May 25, 2008, 12:20 PM

Quote:

There is no way "simple civilians" can get post-1986 MGs.

Well they technically can, but not legally. I did figure out a way to convert a Remington 597 to open bolt operation that would probably work. (I was bored and had the schematics, OK), It would require a bit of work on the trigger group, plus replacing certain other parts with different ones as well as some welding. However, I really don't want to spend 10 years in prison so I'm not going to try.

I hope DC vs Heller will eventually lead to the repeal of the MG ban, but we won't know for sure until they issue the ruling.

PTK · May 25, 2008, 12:30 PM

I was talking in a legal sense. In disregard to the laws, I could very quickly convert every single semi-auto weapon I have into a ten year jail sentence.

VUPDblue · May 25, 2008, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Ruthless4christ,

Converting items to FA without having a SOT is illegal. There is no way "simple civilians" can get post-1986 MGs.

He knows that. He's been around this forum for some time now, and besides that, he lives in Guatemala...

flyby · May 25, 2008, 06:29 PM

Quote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE888XOS12U

That American 180 was 'the Bomb' ..was like starting up a lawnmower or chainsaw an letting it run full throttle

DBotkin · May 26, 2008, 02:06 AM

I once had the extreme pleasure of emptying a full drum through an American 180. A suppressed American 180, in fact. Oh. My. Gawd. What fun!! Basically the only noise you could hear was the clatter of the bolt flying back and forth, and the tinkle of the brass hitting the ground. As I recall, we calculated that the slugs were going down range somewhere between 6 and 8 feet apart.

The gent who owned it (he also had an M16, a Sten and a couple of other cool toys I didn't get to shoot) said it was great for foxes on his farm. Said they usually got after his chickens in pairs, and with the suppressor he could drop one without spooking the second, and get them both. All I know is, 150+ rounds of .22LR goodness made a nice little dust cloud on the 100 yard berm, and I was smilin' for a couple of days. Hadn't had quite that much fun since walking the M60 across targets at 1000 meters.

May 23, 2008, 03:21 PM	#1
hogdogs Staff Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 10,691	Any .22LR full auto? I wouldn't ever want a bunch of full auto stuff due to lack of need but I am wondering if there is an available .22 rifle in full auto? Brent

May 23, 2008, 03:29 PM	#2
zxcvbob Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2007 Location: S.E. Minnesota Posts: 3,657	Yes, I think it's called the "American 180". Has a drum magazine that holds up to 270 rounds. I want one. __________________ "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun"

May 23, 2008, 03:46 PM	#4
SDC Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2001 Location: People's Republic of Kanada Posts: 1,576	There have been a bunch of full-auto 22s made in the past (rifles, handguns, and miniaturized MGs), the trouble is finding a registered one that the current owner wants to sell. The American 180 is one option, but you can also find 10/22s that were converted with "trigger packs", and these use comonly-available magazines (the AM180 drums have a reputation for being finicky and are a PITA to service). You may even be able to find a Gevarm open-bolt 22 if you look long enough, but those have a cyclic rate of ~1100 rpm, so you wear the skin off your thumbs loading mags in no time at all. __________________ Gun control in Canada: making the streets safer for rapists, muggers, and other violent criminals since 1936.

May 24, 2008, 07:53 AM	#7
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,978	I have a .22 for my M16...1200rpm of rimfire lovin' !!! __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

May 23, 2008, 03:38 PM	#3
tomh1426 Senior Member Join Date: September 17, 2005 Location: Youngtown Arizona Posts: 1,135	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE888XOS12U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abTGA...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N0cEAR1zmc&NR=1

May 23, 2008, 04:00 PM	#5
ISC Junior member Join Date: August 5, 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,982	Aren't there also .22 conversions for M16s available?

May 23, 2008, 04:02 PM	#6
PTK Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2008 Posts: 441	Norell still sells 10/22 conversions for $8k last I checked.

May 24, 2008, 10:18 AM	#8
Firepower! Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2008 Posts: 2,109	Have you checked out Skorpion?

May 24, 2008, 01:20 PM	#9
Ruthless4christ Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2007 Location: CNY Posts: 767	the other day u saw a tec 9 in .22. not sure if it was fullautoor not butim surethere has got to be a way...

May 24, 2008, 04:00 PM	#10
tomh1426 Senior Member Join Date: September 17, 2005 Location: Youngtown Arizona Posts: 1,135	I like youtube sometimes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8rnLxIWGro

May 25, 2008, 08:56 AM	#11
PTK Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2008 Posts: 441	tomh1426, Ruthless4christ, Converting items to FA without having a SOT is illegal. There is no way "simple civilians" can get post-1986 MGs.

May 25, 2008, 12:30 PM	#13
PTK Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2008 Posts: 441	I was talking in a legal sense. In disregard to the laws, I could very quickly convert every single semi-auto weapon I have into a ten year jail sentence.

May 26, 2008, 02:06 AM	#16
DBotkin Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 302	I once had the extreme pleasure of emptying a full drum through an American 180. A suppressed American 180, in fact. Oh. My. Gawd. What fun!! Basically the only noise you could hear was the clatter of the bolt flying back and forth, and the tinkle of the brass hitting the ground. As I recall, we calculated that the slugs were going down range somewhere between 6 and 8 feet apart. The gent who owned it (he also had an M16, a Sten and a couple of other cool toys I didn't get to shoot) said it was great for foxes on his farm. Said they usually got after his chickens in pairs, and with the suppressor he could drop one without spooking the second, and get them both. All I know is, 150+ rounds of .22LR goodness made a nice little dust cloud on the 100 yard berm, and I was smilin' for a couple of days. Hadn't had quite that much fun since walking the M60 across targets at 1000 meters.