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Old March 25, 2008, 06:32 PM   #1
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.30 Carbine Load Data - Please

Greetings all.

Anyone have any load data for .30 Carbine, 110 gr JSP, using any of the following powders?
H380
H322
H335
3031
Bullseye
w231

All out of 2400 and these are the only powders left. None of my load manuals lists these powders for the carbine.

Thanks in advance for any and all info.

Regards,
Richard
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Old March 25, 2008, 06:47 PM   #2
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Hodgdon markets five of the six powders you've listed, but they don't provide data for ANY of them in .30 Carbine. I think it's safe to say that you simply don't have the proper powder on hand to load this caliber.

C'mon, a pound of powder is twenty bucks, less than a box of .30 Carbine ammo. Go graba can of IMR-4227!
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Old March 25, 2008, 07:00 PM   #3
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Thanks for the quick reply. Money for the powder isn't the issue. The problem is there is no powder to be had within 50 miles(at least). Was hoping there would be something on hand that I could use. I'll just have to wait for the show at the end of the month.

Thanks again..

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Old March 25, 2008, 07:14 PM   #4
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13.8gr -- Win 296, works good, burns clean
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Old March 25, 2008, 08:03 PM   #5
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Loads for .30 M-1 Carbine Rifle:


(Note: These are maximum loads, you should use 3-5% less to start.) I was advised by a fellow shooter on the web, that backing off any more than 3% would not allow the M-1 Carbine to function properly. With any auto, the loads will be trickier. You certainly want to measure your powder carefully and check the loads to make sure you have the correct bullet weight, type and powder before shooting.
(See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders.)
Bullets are .308" and .3085" diameter. Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up.


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100 grain SJ (Hornady Short Jacket)
IMR 4227 16.0* gr. 2,005 FPS
IMR 4198 14.5* gr. 1,530
SR 4759 11.0* gr. 1,575
2400 12.3* gr. 1,815
H4227 14.5* gr. 1,897
No. 9 13.3* gr. 2,015
* compressed load
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110 grain SJ or Hornady RN
IMR 4227 15.0* gr. 1,900 FPS
IMR 4198 14.5* gr. 1,495
SR 4759 11.0* gr. 1,545
2400 10.3 gr. 1,500
H4227 14.5* gr. 1,935
No. 9 12.6* gr. 1,893
680 16.0* gr. 1,970
* compressed load
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112 grain Lead RN or SWC
IMR 4227 14.0* gr. ----- FPS
IMR 4198 13.5* gr. -----
SR 4759 10.0* gr. -----
2400 10.3 gr. 1,590
H4227 13.5* gr. -----
No. 9 12.0* gr. -----
* compressed load
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125 grain Lead RN
No. 9 11.0 gr. 1,769 FPS
A1680 15.0* gr. 1,756
* compressed load
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Discussion: For owners of M-1 Carbines, it's a lot of fun to fire away with this little semi-auto. Loads need to be fairly consistent to make the action work properly. Ruger had a cylinder for one of their single action, six-shooters that would use the .30 M-1, so you could use the same cartridge in your rifle and handgun. As I remember, that pistol would use several types of .30 cal. ammo, by changing the cylinder.
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Old March 25, 2008, 09:07 PM   #6
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I started with 14.4 grains of IMR 4227, and worked up to 14.7. This is using 110 jacketed R/N bullets. I have an Inland carbine, and it cycled fine with both loads.
Also tried Win 296 and have had great results.

Want to get some Vihta Vuori N110, but nobody around here carries it.

Yep, the .30 carbine is a blast to shoot.

Found some old Sierra hollowpoints (110 grain) that I suspect would be a bit more accurate, but they are so long that if I seat them deep enough to fit the chamber, they are seated with the ogive inside the case mouth.

Good shooting and be safe.
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Old March 26, 2008, 09:40 AM   #7
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30 Carbine load data....

I would agree with the other posters that none of the powders you listed is suitable for your carbine. I shoot 30 carb in two different rifles a Marlin Model 62 lever action and an M-1 and I have tried most all the recommended powders. All of them would function the M-1 when loaded to high enough pressure levels. Two powders have stood out as to accuracy in both rifles. Give H-110 or AA#9 a try and I'm sure you'll be pleased with the results. H-110 loads are available online via Hodgdon.com. You can also get high/low powder charges for most any caliber via stevespages.com. (click on my pages, then reloading, then option #4). Note that the starting charges he lists tend to be very low and the max charges tend to be very stout so approach your loads accordingly...I've always thought the M-1 Carbine to be very high on the fun meter to shoot. Good luck...
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Old March 26, 2008, 11:02 AM   #8
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I have received Email and message critisism about my respose to your question.

The other replies, before mine, stated that the powders you have will not work, I agree

you then stated, you will get some powder when the show comes,

with this in mind I gave you my best recipe, to try and help with your choice of powders when that time comes

If you did not understand or were offended I apologise !!


In answer to some of the Emails I received,
read and think about what you have read before you fly off the handle in the future

and to that very special Email,
^$*&&@~ you too
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Old March 26, 2008, 05:38 PM   #9
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Thank you all for the input. I do appreciate all of you taking the time to respond.

I hope no one thinks that I was offended by ANY of the responses as I WAS NOT. I sincerely DO appreciate all of the responses. Being the age that I am, formerly from NJ, formerly a NJ LEO, a former Marine, yada, yada, yada, I must say that I don't offend easily. I accept this and all forums for what they are, a means to share information, learn as much as I can, (with prudence) and hopefully make some new friends. With the show this weekend I'll pick up a bunch more powder that I need for all of my reloading and will be back in business. NO HARM, NO FOUL.

Firewrench044; no need to apologize, I don't see where you did anything wrong(really).

Thanks again to all.

Kindest Regards,
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