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Old March 17, 2008, 10:30 AM   #1
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Button bucks

how do you guys feel about a kid harvesting a button buck, in an area that dows,button bucks and the ocational spick bucks are the only deer you can get a clear shot at.
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Old March 17, 2008, 10:36 AM   #2
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I think a kid should be able to shoot what ever they want.
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Old March 17, 2008, 10:41 AM   #3
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if it's legal, sure!
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Old March 17, 2008, 11:27 AM   #4
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There are soooo many deer in MI where I hunt that I will shoot the first meat deer I see in the 100-120 pound range with one of my antlerless tags.

If it is legal and the meat will be eaten then go for it..
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Old March 17, 2008, 12:17 PM   #5
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Trophy bucks are nice, but I eat what I kill. I'd rather have a freezer full of meat that rack on the wall. If a button buck is my only legal, ethical shot, I have no problem taking him.
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Old March 17, 2008, 12:30 PM   #6
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Ok I was just checking.
I live in New Jersey and I’m 15 and I’ve bin hunting deer for a couple years, about 4 years now actual. All that time I never hit a deer. Then last year just after deer season ended I discovered I needed glasses. So this year first day of the season I got to go deer hunting (youth day) after sitting in my regular spot, a pile of rocks/dirt on a dirt road that is never used, after two hours or so my uncle went to try and flush the deer towards me from the side. I saw the deer running but it wasn't a clear shot so I started to look to see if there were any other deer coming when the deer stopped dead in front of me give me a clear broad side shot, I put it down with one shot. I was standing on the pilled of rocks/dirt and I was so happy I was shaking a nearly fell off. O and if anyone has ever considered killing one but let it go/or never thought about it the meat was delicious and tender. Sorry if this story was confusing.
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Old March 17, 2008, 12:58 PM   #7
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No problem, dac12, no problem. And welcome to TFL.

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Old March 17, 2008, 01:37 PM   #8
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Cool one idiot at my school who is a follow hunter said its not sportsmen like or something. I was just wondering what you guy thought about takeing them.
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Old March 17, 2008, 02:00 PM   #9
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After I broke my back last year during bow season and had to sit the first half of our season out, I killed a small doe in December, 11 weeks after breaking my back and having surgery to repair my spine. If I'd waited for a wallhanger I'd still be waiting.

Like others have said, I eat what I kill and I've not seen a recipe yet that called for an 8pt or bigger set of horns.........
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Old March 17, 2008, 02:30 PM   #10
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First deer I ever killed (bowhunting) I thought was a doe when I shot it. Came walking up to it and lo-and-behold, it was a little buck.

Sounds like you did good.
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Old March 17, 2008, 03:08 PM   #11
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davlandrum same thing happened to me accept i was useing a shotgun.
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Old March 17, 2008, 04:09 PM   #12
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dac,


When there's meat in the freezer, you can wait for a buck with bigger horns

What you killed is called an "Ice-breaker-deer". You got your first one.....you know whot it feels like....you kow what to do next time......don;t sweat the comments made by others if it was a good clean "fair chase" kill.....

I have a beautiful 8-pointer on the wall....been there for a number of years. I've only killed one other buck since then because I'm waiting on something bigger....but I will fill the feeezer with Does.
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Old March 17, 2008, 04:52 PM   #13
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ya next season i'm going to be a bight more selective.
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Old March 17, 2008, 06:06 PM   #14
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dac - are you in an area where you can get more than one deer a year? That was one reason I loved hunting back east, I could put food in the freezer, then get more selective. In Oregon, it is mainly 1 deer per year (there are some exceptions, but not many).

Every year, after we have tagged out, my buddy and I swear "next year, we will hold out for Big Lou". But the next year, when the freezer is bare, the first legal deer is fair game.

Good luck and good hunting.
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Old March 17, 2008, 06:40 PM   #15
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Generally speaking about what deer to shoot, little bucks and does are better eating. A tad more tender, and much less likely to be gamey.

Back some forty years ago, I got in on a deer lease with my father and some of his cronies and their own sons. We'd kill one or two little bucks as "camp meat". One of those things that's illegal but traditional since long before I was born. My father's comment, when the cook wanted camp meat, was, "Camp meat is a spike buck, shot in the neck."

Some people have a way of saying things in a voice that adds the message, "Don't screw up."



Nuthin' wrong with a button buck...

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Old March 17, 2008, 06:55 PM   #16
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Pretty sure one per type of hunting license
I have shotgun and muzzleloader.
I harvested my button buck with a 12g.
I have a inline 50.cal muzzleloader but since my dad is deceased I can't get to the gun range allot since my uncle is a busy allot.(yet he goes hunting more then me)so I was not able to get it sited in since .I got it year before my dad got sick. Then the next Christmas my uncle got me the scope then the next year he got it put on since my dad had died the summer i got the scope. Now all that needs to be done is sighting it in.
So hopefully next year I’ll be able to take two deer, unless it still isn't sighted in.
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Old March 17, 2008, 10:18 PM   #17
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thanks for reminding

dac10 my first deer only had one little spike about 4 inches long. thanks for reminding me of why i go hunting. sorry to hear about your dad. sounds like he gave you a good start. god bless you.
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Old March 18, 2008, 03:35 PM   #18
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I try not to shoot button bucks, but I have shot several thinking they were a doe. Hey they taste real good, so don't worry about shooting one. Sometimes its hard to see the top of the head if those ears are sticking up. I have shot them before thinking it was a doe and walked up to the deer and thought ought oh this one has a set of balls, thats no doe. Things happen.
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Old March 19, 2008, 10:29 AM   #19
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Like several others above, the first deer I ever shot (at 16) was a button buck that I originally thought was a doe. I try to be a bit more selective now but it isn't that my father and I haven't taken young deer near the end of the season to put in the freezer. No button bucks since then, but we've definitely made use of our anterless permits.

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Old March 19, 2008, 05:48 PM   #20
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I try not to shoot them because I don't want to burn my any sex tag on one and I love to see them grow and develop. That being said, not everyone has the luxury of a family farm that no one in the family hunts anymore.

When my 14 y/o brother goes out next season for the first time, I will be just as excited as he will be if he shoots a wall-hanger or a doe. First deer are special.

Sorry to hear about your dad. I know how hard it is growing up without one. On the bright side, you have an uncle that takes you hunting. Nobody in my family hunts anymore and I had to teach myself.
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Old March 20, 2008, 01:03 PM   #21
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hunting in Pa

Well my mom is looking to buy a house in Pa and I’m thinking of the hunting aspect.
If she does buy a house out there it will be by Shawnee (sp) mountain. Is there any good public land up there and for what? Also is an under aged hunter allowed to carry a second firearm with them while there in the woods in NJ/Pa for self defense. The reason I ask this is because my mom is trying to make me sell a couple of my dads guns but I may just trade it in a to a gun dealer my 2nd cousin goes to for a semi automatic pistol. If I can what would you guys recommend for a low caliber semi automatic.
Thanks for any info you guys can give me and sorry for any misspellings.
o and i figured i would just change this thread instead of makeing a new one.
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Old March 21, 2008, 07:16 AM   #22
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First off, congrats on your first deer. Don't worry about being too selective next year as there will be plenty of time for that later in your hunting career. I feel it's more important for you to fill your tag regardless of what sex it is. As for as the other kid saying it's unsportsman like, well you run into people like that all the time. I feel it's more unsportsman like not to keep the deer population in control and this means harvesting antlerless deer. In Missouri, our season is pretty liberal and we can buy as many antlerless permits as we want in a majority of the counties. I try to hold out for a nice buck anymore but I do take my fair share of skinheads. If you don't have that luxury of having two seperate tags just remember, if you're selective it means going home empty handed more often than not. Here's a nice little article that sums it up rather well:
http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/hunter-stages.php

Now for your second question. DO NOT SELL OR TRADE YOUR DAD'S GUNS!!! You will regret this for the rest of your life...period. I don't know what the regs are where you're planning on moving but for the most part, you can usually carry a pistol on you while hunting. At your age, do not have it concealed in any way, shape or form. Usually where it's a no-go is during archery season or turkey season where only a shotgun is allowed. This is a very blanket statement so please check the Conservation regulations for that state plus state laws regarding transporting/posessing a firearm. As far as a good gun to go with, a new or used Ruger Single Six, Browning Buckmark or Ruger Mark III will fit the bill very nicely. These are all .22's and a great platform to get started off on. They are also very inexpensive and a summer of doing odd jobs or mowing lawns will easily cover the cost of it. Then if you want, you can look into getting a 9mm semi-auto or .357 Magnum revolver. Many models to chose from, fairly inexpensive to buy and shoot. Just remember...DO NOT SELL OR TRADE YOUR DAD'S GUNS!!

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Old March 21, 2008, 08:54 AM   #23
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Thx for the advice. We’re not moving it’s my mom is considering buying a second house in Pa for skiing/renting.
Freakdaddy I’m not really sure if I’ll not be able to avoid getting rid of some of my dad's guns. My mom thinks it’s bad to have 16 guns. Her and my uncle already got rid of my dad's AR-15. I can just hope she gets selling them out of her mind.

edit: anyone have anything to say about the Browning Buck Mark Camper Cocobolo UDX
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Old March 21, 2008, 03:02 PM   #24
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Congratulations on your first deer young man! Your first deer is special, don't let some know it all second guess you. I wish there were a couple million more young people in this country like you!

Please accept my condolences on losing your dad.
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Old March 21, 2008, 03:03 PM   #25
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Thx
Edit: from my mom's reaction I’m not getting a new .22 pistol to carry in the woods with me. But I do have a couple other pistols in the safe that were my dad's.
There are four in the safe of the top of me head I remember that there’s a .38 speical, .44 mag, and a .45.
Witch would be a good pistol to shoot with/carry/first pistol.
I’m guessing the .38 special

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