The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The North Corral > Black Powder and Cowboy Action Shooting

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old February 27, 2008, 09:15 PM   #1
Johnny O
Junior Member
 
Join Date: June 4, 2007
Location: Warrenton, Va.
Posts: 12
A. Waters 1837 Flintlock???

Anyone out there have any idea of the value of this A. Waters 1837 Flintlock??
It has US stamped on the barrel.
LS
P
I have looked it up in all the reference text that I have and found the values to be all over the place.
Thanks for the help,
John
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Flintlock 004.jpg (64.1 KB, 91 views)
File Type: jpg Flintlock 002.jpg (54.6 KB, 72 views)
File Type: jpg Flintlock 006.jpg (63.1 KB, 57 views)
Johnny O is offline  
Old February 28, 2008, 11:26 AM   #2
johnbt
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 6, 1999
Location: Richmond, Virginia USA
Posts: 6,004
I can't find an 1837. The 1836 was apparently (from what I've just read) the last military contract pistol they made and there seem to have been a number of transition models leading up to the 1842 percussion model. I'd like to know more about them, but it won't be today.

Anyway, here's a price on an 1836.

http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/publi...&iSaleNo=13315

"2316 A U.S. Model 1836 flintlock martial pistol by A. Waters $1,265"

How does that fit with what you've seen?

John
johnbt is offline  
Old February 28, 2008, 11:56 AM   #3
Johnny O
Junior Member
 
Join Date: June 4, 2007
Location: Warrenton, Va.
Posts: 12
Flintlock

Thanks for the link. I wasn't able to open any photos on the link. The gun I have seems to be in as good a condition as any I have seen photos of online.
There have been some dealers that I have spoken to saying that the Flinlocks just don't carry any value. They have suggested a range of about
$600.00 to $800.00. This just surprises me considering some of the Colt single actions I have dealt with in the past look like someone has carried them around in a bucket of dirt and rocks and they still go for thousands. This gun for its age is in unbelievable condition.
I have been unable to find out any info on the barrel markings.
Obviously the US makes sense but the LS and P I am unable to find info on.
Johnny O is offline  
Old February 28, 2008, 12:16 PM   #4
Hawg
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 8, 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 11,797
Post it here on the flintlock forum. Lotta knowledgeable folks there that might can tell you more about it. http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fu.../fusionbb.php?
Hawg is offline  
Old March 3, 2008, 04:13 PM   #5
Johnny O
Junior Member
 
Join Date: June 4, 2007
Location: Warrenton, Va.
Posts: 12
Thanks

I took your advise and posted on the web you reccomended. So far good advice from them.
Johnny O is offline  
Old March 4, 2008, 04:43 PM   #6
James K
Staff
 
Join Date: March 17, 1999
Posts: 19,835
The gun is a Model 1836; 1837 is the date of manufacture. They were good, reliable pistols and well liked by the troops. Of course, the almost identical Model 1842 was better, being percussion. Revolvers in the late 1830's were in their infancy and were quite underpowered to the point that sometimes several shots were needed, negating the advantages of the revolver. When someone was hit solid with a .54 caliber ball, he darned well went down and stayed down.

Jim
__________________
Jim K
James K is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.08054 seconds with 8 queries