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Old February 26, 2008, 04:58 PM   #1
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1887 10 Ga Lever Gun question

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I could not find any definitive info using the search function. I picked up a rough but not ugly 1887 Winchester 10G made prior to 1898, (it was sold to me as an antique). I was debating leaving it alone or having it restored.

If I want to try shooting it what type of 10G ammo. Is it black powder only? Will modern 10G ammo damage the gun? Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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Old February 26, 2008, 05:40 PM   #2
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I would most assuredly say that modern 3.5" 10 ga ammo would damage it. Whether the gun was proofed for cordite or smokeless can be determined by a knowledgeable gunsmith. In any case I would get it to a gunsmith to be inspected. If not a reloaded some companies are starting to offer shotgun loadings in the older black powder level shot shells.
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Old February 26, 2008, 05:59 PM   #3
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Some of those were damascus. some weren't. Have it checked out and if it's in good shape it should be safe to shoot with light loads. I've got a 12 gauge 87 made in 1889 I grew up hunting with and I shot everything through it including hi brass buckshot(didn't know any better way back then) and it's still in good shape. I do not advise shooting anything more than light loads and check the chamber length.
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Old February 26, 2008, 11:54 PM   #4
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Thanks for the imput. I don't think it is a damascus barrel. Does anyone know a source for 10G. ammo loaded to lower pressure levels?
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Old February 27, 2008, 05:29 AM   #5
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Midway USA has a 2.5" load in black powder. If I can remember where I 've seen others I'll post.

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Old February 27, 2008, 11:23 AM   #6
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I looked into these a couple of years back since I seem to have a soft spot for the 10gauge. If memory serves at the time most of the ones I saw had a shorter chamber length than 3.5in, I want to say that they were actually either 2 5/8 or 2 7/8 (I'm sure someone here can clarify). I actually have a couple of the boxes of the non 3.5in shells at home that I picked up on an auction some time ago. I was going to check last night after work and post but unfortunately I forgot. I will do so tonight if I remember.

As far as I know no one is making the shorter length standard 10ga shells at the moment. Like the above poster however I did see some in black powder loads at a local sporting/hunting store (non chain) a couple of months back.

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Old February 27, 2008, 07:05 PM   #7
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Just checked

the length of the old 10gauge shells I have are 2 7/8.

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Old May 5, 2008, 02:16 PM   #8
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Black Powder 10 gauge

Try these folks:
http://www.republicmetallic.com

They are the only folks I know of offering 10 ga. black powder loads
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Old May 5, 2008, 03:26 PM   #9
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cowboy action

Check in with the Cowboy Action people. Those guns are used in events and they have loads that work plus a good list of gunsmiths that work on that platform. Check in the Sass web page on there forums, it may help.
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Old May 7, 2008, 10:08 PM   #10
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Thanks for the updates. I bookmarked both web sites. I am debateing leaving the gun alone or having it refurbished.
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Old May 7, 2008, 10:35 PM   #11
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I am debateing leaving the gun alone or having it refurbished.
Personally, I wouldn't mess with it, but if you do, get somebody really good to do the work.

Do you have a photo you could post? I bet there is somebody around here that could tell you your options.

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Old May 8, 2008, 10:58 AM   #12
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Don't have any photos. My photography skills leave a lot to be desired. If I have it worked on I will have it done right. I am considering having Doug Turnbull taking a look at it.
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