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Old May 4, 2009, 10:00 AM   #1401
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Thanks for the info!
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Old May 4, 2009, 02:38 PM   #1402
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radagast I have an m28-2 with the serial # n317xx. I think its an early 1970 but dont know for sure. THANKS FOR ANY HELP
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Old May 5, 2009, 02:39 PM   #1403
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I came across and purchased another classic Smith. Just couldn't help myself.

A 25-2 Model of 1955 45acp. Ser. #N2494x
Any further info you could provide, of course is appreciated.

Thanks for the great service you and layton are doing.
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Old May 5, 2009, 07:14 PM   #1404
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S&W 625-2 S/N BDC61XX

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Old May 6, 2009, 08:05 AM   #1405
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CraCZ: The N3xxxxx serial range was used in 1975-1976.

parisite: The N2xxxxx serial range was used from 1974 to 1977, with the last half of it being used for M28s & M58s. I would guess that your gun dates to the 1974-1975 period.

rwschill: February 1989.
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Old May 6, 2009, 11:01 AM   #1406
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Thanks radagast for the input but my M28 has only 5 digits after the N-317xx
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Old May 6, 2009, 11:20 AM   #1407
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Smith and Wesson K frame (model 10 or M&P - it isn't stamped) serial number 746xx. I'm guessing sometime in the forties. The latest patent date is Dec 29, 1914 and is decked out with mother-of-pearl grips and a light weight 6 inch bbl. The number 4481 is stamped on the crane.

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Old May 6, 2009, 09:04 PM   #1408
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Hi Guys,
Looking at two clean 19-3's one is a 4" and the other is a 6". If someone would be so kind and give me date of mfg.
9K42*** and 9K88***
Thanks, LF
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Old May 6, 2009, 09:14 PM   #1409
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Smith and Wesson K frame (model 10 or M&P - it isn't stamped) serial number 746xx... The latest patent date is Dec 29, 1914
The serial number would indicate a .38 M&P Model of 1905 1st Change made in 1906, but the 1914 patent date doesn't match this theory. Does the gun have a "V" serial number prefix? I think it's a WWII Victory revolver. The "V" may be on the other side of the butt, or it may be partially obscured by poor refinishing, which is common on WWII Victory revolvers that were resold on the commercial market. The matte grey-black phosphate finish on the Victory wartime guns is ugly even in pristine like-new condition, so resellers often refinished them simply to increase their appeal.

The serial number on a K frame from this era should also be found on the cylinder face and the barrel flat under the ejector rod. Check those places too.
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9K42*** and 9K88***
1975-1976.
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Old May 6, 2009, 10:24 PM   #1410
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S&W Age

Model 60 J frame 5 shot 2in barrel
Serial# R118xxx

Thanks!!

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Old May 7, 2009, 08:29 AM   #1411
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Thanks for the info Chris. Your description of the various places to look for the serial number has helped a bit. I think the frame/cylinder may be from '06 as you described. The barrel has a different sn which leads me to think that the barrel was replaced at some point. The sn of it is 448259 with a B to the left of the number. There's no "V" on any of the parts. I've seen the finish of those victory models before and like you say, they're ugly. There isn't much of the original finish left on this one, but it doesn't appear to me to be like the victory models.

If it is from '06, I might not carry it loaded with shot shells in the swamp anymore. I'll still shoot it some because that's what a gun is for, but maybe I'll be a little more cautious about where I carry it. I inherited it from my grandfather and have no idea how he came to get it, but my Dad remembers it being around when he was kid in the fifties. Thanks again for your time and help.

I'll post pics when I get a chance.
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Old May 7, 2009, 09:25 PM   #1412
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Model 586, Serial number BPC78XX
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Old May 7, 2009, 11:01 PM   #1413
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Model 60 J frame 5 shot 2in barrel
Serial# R118xxx
1974/75.

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Model 586, Serial number BPC78XX
1993.

Jim
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Old May 7, 2009, 11:04 PM   #1414
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Thanks radagast for the input but my M28 has only 5 digits after the N-317xx
N1 to N99999 ran from 1969 to 1972.

Jim
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Old May 8, 2009, 05:05 PM   #1415
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Can someone help find the manufacture date of my S&W model 19-5 serial# 257Kxxx. Thanks
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Old May 8, 2009, 05:30 PM   #1416
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I just picked up a S&W M&P .38 special from Cabelas. (Happy mothers day to me) serial #933***. onthe right side of the barrel is stamped CTG and on the frame (inside the crane?) is 5 over 6351

what can you tell me about it?

Thanks jo

Im brand new to handguns, have a 686 for competition and a 442 for conceal, but haven't bought a used one until today. I think i have the gun bug.
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Old May 9, 2009, 05:07 AM   #1417
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jomommy: You have a S&W .38 Military & Police model of 1905 4th Change.

4th change refers to an engineering change, these days engineering changes are shown with -xx after the model number under the crane, where xx is the change number. The numbers stamped under the crane on your gun are assembly numbers used to track fitted parts in the factory. Your gun predates model numbers, which were introduced in 1957.

The 4th change was manufactured between 1915 and 1942, serial numbers in the 748000 to 760000 range shipped in 1941, so your gun made in 1941 or 1942. When the serial range hit 1000,000 it started again at V1 as the Victory Model.

Starting in 1899 on the medium K frame as the Military & Police 1st model and continuing in production today as the Model 10, the Military and Police revolver with various engineering changes has been in mass production for over a century and was the platform that the .38 special was introduced on.

Subsequent evolutions included the six inch barreled Target Masterpiece with adjustable sights, the four inch barreled Combat Masterpiece with adjustable sights, the model 19 (blued) & 66 (stainless steel) Combat Magnums, the model 67 stainless Combat Masterpiece, the model 13 fixed sight .357 magnum, the model 64 military & Police stainless & the model 65 stainless steel .357 magnum.
Your 686 is also an evolution of the Military & Police. The model 66 & model 19 were prone to cracking of the forcing cone and erosion of the top strap with some magnum ammunition, so the slightly larger, more robust model 686 was developed as a replacement.
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Old May 9, 2009, 05:10 AM   #1418
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War Eagle: 1982. Serial number range for that year was 125K000 to 269K999.
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Old May 9, 2009, 05:11 AM   #1419
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CraCZ: Sorry for the stuff up there, laytonj1 has posted the correct info.
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Old May 12, 2009, 09:03 AM   #1420
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I just purchased a used Model 10-8, serial is D3414XX, can someone look up and tell me what it dates as? I am buying the book, just have not got around to it

thanks

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Old May 12, 2009, 12:15 PM   #1421
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How about 771xxx? Just got it from grandmother and she has no idea how old it is.

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Old May 12, 2009, 12:59 PM   #1422
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S&W M&P, Blue, 5" .38 Special with no monogram walnut grips. Serial # 406,000 range (I don't have it in front of me right now so no full serial # available)
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Old May 13, 2009, 05:19 AM   #1423
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Bailey4765: You have a S&W .38 Miltary & Police model of 1905 4th Change.
Heat treating of cylinders began somewhere around 1917-1920 at serial number 316648, serial numbers in the 500,000 range shipped in 1927, so between 1917 & 1927 with the early 1920s being most likely.

White Boot Infidel: assuming you have a .38 special or .38 S&W K frame gun, then around 1940, the British started buying bulk K frame S&Ws in 1940 starting at serial number 680,000.

Tattooed Bard: 1971-1972. Serial number range for those years was D330001 to D420000. The problem with his is that the 10-8 wasn't introduced until 1977. If the serial number is 1D3414xx then your gun was made in 1979 or 1980.
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Old May 13, 2009, 12:03 PM   #1424
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Thanks for the knowledge on the M1905 M&P Radagast. The extra effort for the info on the heat treating is especially appreciated.
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Old May 13, 2009, 04:12 PM   #1425
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Radagast,

the 6 looked an awful lot like an 8, but closer examination says I bought a pinned barrel 10-6 for 200 bucks. I am a 71 model myself so even better
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