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Old December 2, 2013, 01:02 PM   #6376
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S&W 686 serial number

Just bought my first wheel gun, a used S&W 686 no dash with 4 inch barrel. Was wondering when it was manufactured (serial #ABC21xx) and there are issues I should be aware of with this model. Thanks.
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Old December 2, 2013, 01:17 PM   #6377
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Your 686 was shipped in 1982.
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Old December 11, 2013, 08:21 PM   #6378
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I have a Model 64-2 Need Year Produced

Serial Number is 7D277XX 2" Stainless 64-2 I believed pinned.
Thank you for a year.
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Old December 12, 2013, 04:02 AM   #6379
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What do I have here?

Looking at a new gun that showed up in one of my favorite shops...

Looks like a Victory model. Parkerized finish with lanyard loop, square butt. 38 S&W (not Special) 6" barrel, thin barrel, round top front sight, 5 screw. S/N 728xxx. Pinned barrel, The hammer looks right. No prefix on the serial number. No British proof marks.

The grips do not appear to be original as they are missing the diamond.

Cannot tell if it is a 1905 variant or a Victory. My SCSW (3rd ed.) does not nail it down.
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Old December 12, 2013, 05:20 PM   #6380
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Serial Number is 7D277XX
1981.

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S/N 728xxx. My SCSW (3rd ed.) does not nail it down.
It sounds like a model K-200 (.38/200 British service revolver) made around 1940.
If you go to page 140 of your SCSW, it gives a short description about it.

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Old December 12, 2013, 06:34 PM   #6381
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Jim,

I'm also thinking it's a K-200 but there are no British proof marks anywhere on the gun which is why I could not settle on it being this.

As the SCSW does not spell it out would the K-200 have caliber markings is US nomentclature (.38 S&W CTG) or British (38/200 CTG) on the side of the barrel?

The finish on this gun is about 75% maybe 80% (might even be better as I suck at this sort of estimation) with most of the bare metal showing is on the very edges of sharp edged parts like the cylinder release. How can I tell if it's a refinish? I realize that is not easy. Neither the hammer or trigger have been treated and are as finished from S&W.

My understanding is the non-blued finish on S&W war guns was thin and easily worn off.

Simply put, the gun is in terrific condition. All serial number marked parts match. The action is nice and tight, the finish is as I've described. No import marks. No British proof marks. No US Property marks.The grips are not original as they do not bear the S&W diamond.

The seller has the thing priced at $650.
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Old December 14, 2013, 04:52 PM   #6382
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Twmaster,

The 38 S&W chamberings were usually for export to Europe. That said, you'll likely get more information on your gun if you ask the question over on the S&W forum.

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Old December 16, 2013, 02:32 PM   #6383
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S&W 19-7

Anyone interested in looking up a Smith & Wesson .357 mag - model 19-7 for me.
Blued - 6" barrel - wood grips
has 2 numbers, now sure which is SN.
22309-2XX
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BRA06XX

Also, any idea of value?
In very nice shape with just a slight bit of bluing wear at tip of barrel on one side.
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Old December 16, 2013, 06:16 PM   #6384
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BRA06XX
1994.
$550 or so.

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Old December 19, 2013, 09:47 PM   #6385
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S&W Model 66 4-inch Questions

I just found a S&W Model 66 at a local Pawn Shop and got it for $252 out the door. I'm mildly stunned. Excellent condition, locks up very tight, icicle trigger, just dirty inside and out.
1. What takes the old finish off walnut grips without harming the wood??
2. Can someone give me an idea of the pedigree of this fellow? The SN is: AUU9489.

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Old December 20, 2013, 06:12 PM   #6386
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1. What takes the old finish off walnut grips without harming the wood??
2. Can someone give me an idea of the pedigree of this fellow? The SN is: AUU9489.
1. Acetone.
2. 1987.

Great Price too!

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Old December 21, 2013, 11:30 PM   #6387
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Model 66 4-inch Questions

Many thanks !
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Old December 23, 2013, 11:11 AM   #6388
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1994.
$550 or so.

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Old December 23, 2013, 11:19 AM   #6389
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Looking at a 19-3 RB #K794XXX VG condition age and approx value would be great

Thanks!
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Old December 23, 2013, 08:00 PM   #6390
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19-3 RB #K794XXX
1968.
If it's a round butt then it's a 2.5" barrel. Don't know what you consider very good condition but with minor bluing wear I say around $500.


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Old December 23, 2013, 08:21 PM   #6391
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VERY minor bluing as at only at a few extreme wear points
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Old December 23, 2013, 08:35 PM   #6392
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VERY minor bluing as at only at a few extreme wear points
Value can be hard to pinpoint. I just bought a 19-1 (a scarce variation made in 1961) 4" with some bluing wear at the muzzle for $500 out the door. That said, the 2.5"ers usually go for a premium but I personally would be hard pressed to pay more than $600 for it unless it came with the original box, etc.

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Old December 23, 2013, 09:20 PM   #6393
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So, about 350 would have been a good price then?
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Old December 24, 2013, 08:30 AM   #6394
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So, about 350 would have been a good price then?
No, I would never pay that low an amount. I would have insisted on paying much more...

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Old December 24, 2013, 08:05 PM   #6395
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Could someone help me date a S&W Model 15 I just acquired through a trade.

First part of serial number is 17K5xxx.

Also, this may be a stupid question, but the pin on the hammer is sort of loose. Is that normal? I have never owned one if these older revolvers.

Thanks all

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Old December 25, 2013, 12:01 AM   #6396
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The firing pin mounted on the hammer is supposed to be free to pivot vertically a bit, it's part of the design. You've got a fine Smith & Wesson revolver that dates to 1977.
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Old December 26, 2013, 09:50 PM   #6397
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anybody care to look up a serial # for me? it's a model 10 or a pre 10. 819xxx. has a bunch of british proof marks but no V prefix. thanks
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Old December 27, 2013, 03:33 PM   #6398
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The pre-Model 10 is also referred to as the "Smith & Wesson Hand Ejector Military & Police Model of 1905" and all after 241704 (1915) are "4th Change" Models.

These guns, including the pre-war, post-war and Victory Models comprise the most-produced single model in the history of handguns, an estimated six million having been made.

The SCSW suggests that yours was made between 1940 & 1945, which covers the range of 700000 to 1000000.

Someone else can give you an idea about the British proof marks.
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Old December 29, 2013, 11:01 PM   #6399
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Hi. Ive acquired a 629-1 Smith and Wesson 44 Mag. The serial number is N934xxx. Thanks in advance on date information. Also it is the SS gun with wooden handle. Do you guys know an aproximate value. Again thank you!
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Old December 29, 2013, 11:24 PM   #6400
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The SCSW that I happen to have is a second edition, and the current version of this fine book is the Third Edition. So there may be some updates where mine has left off. I say this because the chart in the back of the book that usually tells the tale doesn't list any N-prefix serial numbers after N932xxx, showing that as 1983 production date.

However, the meat of the book and the accompanying Model 629 text notes that the 629-1 was produced from 1982 to 1988.

I think it's safe to "estimate" that your revolver dates to 83-85 or thereabouts.

Value is horribly subjective and will be affected by odd/interesting factory features, but centers mostly around condition, condition, condition. Also keep in mind that a "price" range can vary from the ultra-low (what a gun store would give you) to absurdly high (what a small town gun store might actually display on the 'for sale' tag to open discussion) and anywhere in between. To further muddy up the process of determining a "value", keep in mind that some guns are simply more sought after in certain areas more so than others.

It might be helpful to simply say that a 629-1, while a fine revolver, isn't particularly rare and/or doesn't typically carry some radical premium. I would expect to pay $600 to $700 to get a 629-1 in decent shape in the circles I travel.
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