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Old October 8, 2012, 01:23 PM   #5726
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I'd like to propose a vote of thanks to "laytonj1" (Jim) who does a hell of a job, giving up his free time checking up on and dating all these firearms for people.

Many Thanks Jim

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Old October 9, 2012, 10:25 AM   #5727
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Latest Edition of The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson

Since perusing this forum I thought I would buy the book. What is the last year of production? I have several guns and would like to look them up rather than bother anyone else and it would be a good reference guide.
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Old October 9, 2012, 10:55 AM   #5728
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Standard Catalog of S&W 3rd. edition currently in print and downloadable for some E-readers.
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Old October 9, 2012, 11:21 AM   #5729
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Old October 9, 2012, 05:16 PM   #5730
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Gaz in NZ,

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Old October 10, 2012, 02:18 PM   #5731
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Smith and Wesson Identifier

I have a 32 Long CTG S&W serial number 271999
It is a 6 shot revolver in fine condition
I'm trying to find out what tyoe it is exactly, year of firearm, and and further information. Any help will be greatful my grandfather is not around to help me anymore.
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Old October 11, 2012, 06:47 PM   #5732
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I have a 32 Long CTG S&W serial number 271999
It's a 32 Hand Ejector Third Model.
Serial numbers ran from 263001 in 1917 to 536684 in 1942.
Yours is likely first or second year production for that model (1917/18).
It's built on the "I" frame and was available with blue or nickel finish with barrel lengths of 3.25", 4.25" or 6" offered.

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Old October 15, 2012, 01:04 PM   #5733
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I'm new here, but may have a WWII 38 Special

My dad passed to me a S&W 38 with a ramp site marked "Parker Hale - England" and a potload of various stamps and numbers all over it.
- On the butt is "V 638015";
- On the left side just forward of the trigger guard is a tiny stamp of crossed swords with numbers too small for me to make out, maybe "0-2-6";
- On the left side of the barrel, under the "Smith & Wesson" is 'BNP' then "38 Special I-150"?
- Below that is "4 TONS"
- Inside the cylinder housing is "93446"
The (walnut?) grips are nicely cross-hatched, and shaped different from many S&W's -- the top edge being rounded and not extending near the hammer.

I've seen some that lookd a lot like it listed over $1,000; and I've seen a depressing number listed around $300. This one does load 38-Special ammo, by the way.

My dad acquired this, I believe, in the early 1950's when he worked with Scotland Yard in London as USAF liaison for counter-intelligence. Is this one of the lend-lease handguns?

Thanks very much for any information (and evaluation?) you can offer.

Best regards,
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Old October 15, 2012, 06:41 PM   #5734
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On the butt is V 638015
Dates to right around 1944.
It certainly spent time in England although I believe the lend lease guns were chambered in 38 S&W vs. 38 S&W Special.
The original chambering should be on the right side of the barrel.
It was likely converted back to 38 special before being re-imported.
But, I could be wrong.

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Old October 16, 2012, 10:56 PM   #5735
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I just bought a S&W model 49, blue, serial AAV70XX. Can anyone please tell me the DOB on this one?
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Old October 17, 2012, 05:04 PM   #5736
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serial AAV70XX
1982.

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Old October 18, 2012, 08:53 AM   #5737
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Serial Number for Smith & Wesson

I also need to know a production date on a S&M. I think it was somewhere around 1917.
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Old October 18, 2012, 08:57 AM   #5738
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Smith & Wesson Serial Numbers

Mine is a Smith & Wesson 32 short CTG #176365.
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Old October 18, 2012, 05:39 PM   #5739
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Old S&W

Hello Gents. I have a few old S&W revolvers and wondered if anyone might be able to give me some information on them. One is a .32 Smith and Wesson chambered for the Long Ctg, serial number 315XXX. The other is a very small 7 shot .22 short revolver (I was told it was the original Lady Smith) with serial number 564X. I also have a .22 Long Rifle Revolver Serial Number K210XXX, a new in box but old .38 Chief's Special and a model 66 Stainless .357. I have a few other arms as well; but, the first two S&W revolvers mentioned above may have a storied history, if the dates work out.

Thanks for any help,
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Old October 18, 2012, 06:21 PM   #5740
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Smith & Wesson 32 short CTG #176365
If it's an exposed hammer then it's a 32 Double Action 4th Model.
SN's ran from 43406 in 1883 to 282999 in 1909.

If it has a concealed hammer then it's a 32 Safety Hammerless 3rd Model.
SN's ran from 170000 in 1909 to 242981 in 1937.

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One is a .32 Smith and Wesson chambered for the Long Ctg, serial number 315XXX. The other is a very small 7 shot .22 short revolver (I was told it was the original Lady Smith) with serial number 564X. I also have a .22 Long Rifle Revolver Serial Number K210XXX,
315XXX = that discription/SN fits two models.
1) 32 Hand Ejector 3rd Model (round butt). SN's ran from 263001 in 1917 to 536684 in 1942.
2) 32 Regulation Police (square butt). SN's ran in the same range as above.

Either way, heat treating started at serial number 321000 in 1920 so that dates yours to 1919/20.


564X = Assuming it is a 22 Ladysmith it would be a 2nd Model with SN's running from 4576 in 1906 to 13950 in 1910.

K210XXX = the SN change over from 1953 to 1954 was at SN K210096.

Jim

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Old October 18, 2012, 06:38 PM   #5741
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Thanks Jim. You are a wealth of information. The Lady Smith is about 95%, original finish; but, it is missing the small knurled knob on the cylinder release. Wouldn't know where one might be rolling around, would you?
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Old October 19, 2012, 09:47 AM   #5742
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S&W 32 short

The one I have is a break barrel, hammerless, lemon squeezer.
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Old October 20, 2012, 12:31 PM   #5743
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Considering purchase of this piece

S&W 60-10 CDT57XX. It seems to be in remarkable shape. Any help with the mfg. date would be appreciated.
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Old October 21, 2012, 12:45 PM   #5744
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Would like info on a 4" 29-2 I just bought.Serial # is N6684xx

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Old October 21, 2012, 03:53 PM   #5745
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CDT57XX
Between Nov 1999 and Jan 2000.

Quote:
N6684xx
The N6xxxxx range ran from 1979 to 1980.

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Old October 22, 2012, 12:21 AM   #5746
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Hey guys, mind helping date mine? It's a pre model 10, serial number:
145xxx

Thanks
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Old October 22, 2012, 05:01 PM   #5747
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It's a pre model 10, serial number:
145xxx
1909.
Serial numbers ran from 73251 in 1906 to 146899 in 1909 for the 38 M&P's

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Old October 22, 2012, 08:12 PM   #5748
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Thank you kindly Jim!
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Old October 23, 2012, 05:41 AM   #5749
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Question?

I inherited a S&W revolver. I believe it's a 3rd model 38 special. It's in pretty rough shape as far as looking at it but it does work. I was just wondering the age of this weapon. The s/n is 86xxx Thanks for any help, Sherman
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Old October 23, 2012, 05:27 PM   #5750
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The s/n is 86xxx
That SN was used on both 5 and 6 shot models but at different years.
So, if you took the SN from the underside of the frames grip butt and it's a six shot then it would be a 38 Military & Police Model of 1905 1st change. SN's ran from 73251 in 1906 to 146899 in 1909.
If it's a 5 shot then it's a Chiefs Special made in 1956.

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