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Old January 19, 2011, 07:54 PM   #3826
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Thanks Jim. I've got the model 10 fever and have bought another one, serial D2304XX. Would this be late '60's?
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Old January 19, 2011, 08:04 PM   #3827
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Oh,I forgot to mention it has an import mark under the Brl C.A.I. ST ALB. VT..He said it was a lend lease gun from the war but I don't know anything about them.
Okay. Then no question it's a Victory model and made ~43/44.
Many of the Victory (WWII) models were chambered for 38 S&W and sent to the British during the war. After the war, many of them were imported back into the US and sold on the civilian market.
I like how they stamped the CI in front of the V (for victory) prefix to make CIV (civilian).

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Old January 19, 2011, 09:55 PM   #3828
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I've got the model 10 fever and have bought another one, serial D2304XX. Would this be late '60's?
Serial numbers ran from D90001 in 1969 to D330000 in 1970.

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Old January 19, 2011, 11:01 PM   #3829
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S&w .38 125xxx

It does say Smith and Wesson .38 special and has a swing out cylinder. The S/N is on the butt frame.
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Old January 19, 2011, 11:29 PM   #3830
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It does say Smith and Wesson .38 special and has a swing out cylinder. The S/N is on the butt frame.
Okay, assuming it's a 6 shot, it would be a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905, 1st Change. Serial numbers ran from 73251 in 1906 to 146899 in 1909.

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Old January 20, 2011, 09:47 AM   #3831
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1905 M&P

It is a 6-shot. Unfortunately, the right side grip is not original. The left side is black (looks like bakelite), checkered with the S&W logo. The right side is plain wood, probably fashioned by my grandfather. He also crudely engraved his SSN on the left side frame (obviously before identity theft had been thought of). Thanks so much for the info.
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Old January 22, 2011, 04:38 PM   #3832
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17-6

Hello,

first post.
Nice forum You got here!

But now the main thing.
There's going to be a Finnish policedepartments gun auction in about 2weeks.
I have the list of the auction items. Two S&W 17-6 revolvers are included.
The only information on the list are the serial numbers, no pics or anything else.
So I hope someone could help me.
I know what a 17 looks like and would only be interested in the "full lug" version.
I would be very grateful for any information of these guns.

The serials are: BEF90XX and BDZ57XX

Thanks
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Old January 22, 2011, 05:38 PM   #3833
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The serials are: BEF90XX and BDZ57XX
The SN's date them to late 1989/90 time frame. The 17-6 was the start of the full lug barrel and would be a 6 shot, although, there were reportedly a few early -6's made without the full lug barrel.

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Old January 22, 2011, 05:51 PM   #3834
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Thanks for a quick responce!

Do You have any idea what SN's would be for the ones without the full lug barrel?

So, it seems that I have to go to the auction and maybe get my first revolver
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Old January 22, 2011, 06:08 PM   #3835
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Do You have any idea what SN's would be for the ones without the full lug barrel?
Exact serial number, no. The 17-6 started in the 1989/90 time frame so the two you listed are right at the beginning of -6 production.
The -6 version was the change to the full lug barrel (-5 and below were standard barrels).
But, there are always those few exceptions that slip by.

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Old January 22, 2011, 07:01 PM   #3836
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Thanks again Jim!
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Old January 23, 2011, 08:25 PM   #3837
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Looking for info on two Mod 10's - I think

Trying to find age of a couple S&W 38 revolvers that belong to a friend. He has one, that he bought new, he believes in 1957, the box refers to it as a Mod 10-5, SN/ D349XXX, 4" bbl.

The other one he bought today, from an individual; looks identical to the one above except it has synthetic grips (similar to the "New Governor" gun currently on the S&W website, homepage). It's serial number is 8D50XXX and also has a 4" bbl. Your help is greatly appreciated.

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Old January 23, 2011, 08:53 PM   #3838
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D349xxx is @ 1972.
8D50xxx is 1981.

A call to S&W will get you the date it shipped from the factory.
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Old January 23, 2011, 09:32 PM   #3839
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Help on date for S&W Model 60

I recently inhereted my grandfather's model 60, sn R998xx.

I would appreciate any help in learning it's DOB.

Thanks!

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Old January 24, 2011, 07:51 AM   #3840
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Old January 24, 2011, 09:39 AM   #3841
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Thanks FlyFish!

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Old January 24, 2011, 10:09 AM   #3842
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I have a S&W 22 revolver. Has this number on base of grip frame and under barrel: 204399. Inside of crane and back of side plate is this number: 25464.
What do I have?
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Old January 24, 2011, 06:51 PM   #3843
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Need some information along the lines of barrel length, number of rounds the cylinder holds, fixed or adjustable sights, finish, grip material, etc..
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Old January 25, 2011, 10:16 AM   #3844
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6 inch barrel, 6 shot, adjustable sights, magna stocks, pinned barrel.
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Old January 25, 2011, 03:43 PM   #3845
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S&W search, please

Father recently showed me a snub nose 38 S&W. Told me has had it for about twenty five to thirty years, maybe more. Anyway, open the cylinder and it has 4140 stamped there, with maybe an 8 under the 4140, hard to tell. Then the bottom of the grip is #182xxx. Gun is blued and in pretty good shape. Dad just wants to know what he has and what is it worth, all help is appreciated.
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Old January 25, 2011, 04:24 PM   #3846
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Thanks

Flyfish,
Thanks for the info on the model 19. I'm delighted that it's in as fine a shape for an older handgun. As of this posting I've had several inquiries and the general consensus it would sell easily for 600.00+, mostly due to its condition I think.

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Old January 25, 2011, 06:17 PM   #3847
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6 inch barrel, 6 shot, adjustable sights, magna stocks, pinned barrel.

Has this number on base of grip frame and under barrel: 204399
It should have a "K" preceding that number also. That said, K204399 would be 1953.

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Father recently showed me a snub nose 38 S&W. Told me has had it for about twenty five to thirty years, maybe more. Then the bottom of the grip is #182xxx. Gun is blued and in pretty good shape. Dad just wants to know what he has and what is it worth, all help is appreciated.
Assuming it's a 5 shot, it was made in the 1958 to 1961 time frame.
Value depends on condition and can range from around $250 very well used to $500 in minty condition.

Jim
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Old January 27, 2011, 10:40 AM   #3848
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S&W 38 Double Action Fourth Model

38 Double Action Fourth Model top break, 5 shot, 4" blue barrel
Serial # is 39800X Anyone know the year? Thanks, chig
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Old January 27, 2011, 01:43 PM   #3849
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Sorry didnt read all the posts lol but I got the The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson and couldnt find the serial number ranges for most if not all of the guns. Im trying to figure out the date of my victory. Am i reading it wrong or what?
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Old January 27, 2011, 02:01 PM   #3850
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Sorry didnt read all the posts lol but I got the The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson and couldnt find the serial number ranges for most if not all of the guns. Im trying to figure out the date of my victory. Am i reading it wrong or what?
If you have the Third Edition, the tabulation of serial numbers begins on p. 395, with additional information provided at the end (generally) of the text descriptions of each model. The book cautions that the production year information is only approximate, and guns were at times manufactured out of the regular serial number sequence. For some models - and your Victory is likely one of them - it's only possible to get a date within a wide range (e.g., 1915-1942). You can interpolate to narrow that down a bit, but any date obtained that way should be considered a very general approximation. It's also sometimes possible to narrow a range down a bit by careful reading of the description, noting when certain features were in use, and comparing to the gun in question.
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