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Old July 27, 2008, 04:30 PM   #326
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Ok, I got the serial number, S1547xx.

If someone will be kind enough to help me I'll be grateful. If anyone is interested in making an offer I will give my Dad's phone #.

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Old July 27, 2008, 08:10 PM   #327
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Ok, I got the serial number, S1547xx.
S1547XX = 1956. The transition models were mid to late 1940's.
The value depends heavily on the guns condition. Good pictures would be required. Depending on features, any finish wear, original finish, original grips, barrel length, sights, original box, etc will effect value which can range from a few hundred to $1500+.
The 38/44 is a 44 cal sized "N" frame chambered in 38spl. It was designed to shoot hot 38spl loads.

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Old July 27, 2008, 08:21 PM   #328
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I picked up a S&W .38 special revolver from a local pawn shop last week and I've been trying to date it. There are a number of patents on the top of the barrel, the latest one is Sept. 14. 09 which I mistook to mean a more modern gun, but now I'm pretty sure that would be 1909. If that's the case, I think I got a pretty good deal on it.

Anyway, the serial number is 2397**, there is also a number under the hinge of the cylinder that reads 6126. Anyone know around what timeframe I'm looking at, and maybe a model number
It sounds like a 38 military and police. The serial number places it as a 3rd. change made between 1909 and 1915. However, a good picture would help to be certain.

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Old July 27, 2008, 08:35 PM   #329
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I picked up a S&W .38 special revolver from a local pawn shop last week and I've been trying to date it. There are a number of patents on the top of the barrel, the latest one is Sept. 14. 09... Anyway, the serial number is 2397**... Anyone know around what timeframe I'm looking at, and maybe a model number?
Your gun is a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905, 3rd Change. This model was made from 1909 to 1915, and yours falls near the end of the serial number range, so it was theoretically built closer to 1915.

Two important notes:

1) As previously noted in this thread, keep this gun far, far away from +P ammo!

2) This gun predates the S&W hammer block safety. I believe that the 3rd Change has a coil-spring-actuated rebound slide with a hump to keep the hammer from pivoting unless the trigger is pulled (like all modern S&Ws), but since it lacks the hammer block, it could theoretically discharge if it's dropped on the hammer hard enough to shear off the hammer pivot pin. Be careful handling this gun when it's loaded, and always make sure it's securely holstered.
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Old July 27, 2008, 10:03 PM   #330
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S&W Mod 65

I have a stainless 4" bbl. S&W Model 65 .357 Magnum. It is s/n 7D64xxx. The markings inside the crane say "Mod 65-2"

Can anyone help me place this to the time when it was manufactured?
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Old July 27, 2008, 11:15 PM   #331
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I have a stainless 4" bbl. S&W Model 65 .357 Magnum. It is s/n 7D64xxx. The markings inside the crane say "Mod 65-2"
1981.

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Old July 28, 2008, 06:08 AM   #332
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38/44 Serial #S1547xx

LaytonJ1,

Thanks for your response. I haven't seen the revolver yet so I don't know its condition but I know my Dad doesn't have the box.

Any idea what the heck all those other numbers are? On the left frame is BACX461xx with the B circled and on the yoke is X690xx.

Thanks.

BTW my dad is a Korean War veteran and was assigned to the 5th Regimental Combat Team. Searchlight6 was one of his radio call names.
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Old July 28, 2008, 08:35 AM   #333
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Any idea what the heck all those other numbers are? On the left frame is BACX461xx with the B circled and on the yoke is X690xx.
The number inside the yoke is an assembly number. It is arbitrary and meaningless after the gun leaves the factory; refer earlier in the thread.

The BACX designation was applied by a former owner of the gun. I have no idea what it means. Old revolvers are commonly marked with abbreviations for law enforcement agencies, military forces (including foreign ones due to surplus sales), and railroads. (Mail used to be moved primarily on passenger trains, and it was common practice for at least one- if not all- of the employees aboard the mail car to be armed. Railroads also used to, and in some cases still have, private police forces.) However, the BACX abbreviation does not ring a bell.
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Old July 28, 2008, 10:20 AM   #334
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Thank you LaytonJ1 for your quick reply of "1981" on my question about the "stainless 4" bbl. S&W Model 65 .357 Magnum, s/n 7D64xxx, with crane markings of 'Mod 65-2'."
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Old July 31, 2008, 10:37 PM   #335
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Carguychris,

Re: S&W 38/44 with BACX#### on the left frame - based on your reference to railroads, I checked with a railroad expert friend of mine who said that BACX sounded like a "railroad reporting mark" I found that BACX is the railroad report mark for Merchants Despatch Transportation Corporation (CA Burnette Co Inc) and ACX is the reporting mark for Associated Cooperatives Inc 7/1953; 7/1954-4/1961. I haven't been able to find anything about these companies related to sidearms or otherwise. Maybe somebody else knows something more. Thanks for your response.
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Old August 3, 2008, 06:33 AM   #336
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Hi all,

I have recently acquired a S&W Model 15-3 with a 4" barrel. The serial number is 6K980**. I'd really like to know its date of manufacture and any other relevant info.

Thank you in advance for your help.

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Old August 3, 2008, 09:19 AM   #337
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LaytonJ1,

RE: 38/44 heavy duty S1547xx. I purchased the Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson, 3rd Edition, Supica to give my Dad and am finding lots of interesting information but I don't see anything that tells me serial numbers versus manufacture dates. Where can I find a source that gives S&W info by serial number?

In the mean time while I still have the Standard Cat in my hands I'll be glad to look some things up as time allows.

Previous post, what info were you looking for on your model 15-3?
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Old August 3, 2008, 12:02 PM   #338
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Mervyn-
Looks like 1975 is manufacture date
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Old August 3, 2008, 01:12 PM   #339
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I've had this one about 20 years and was told it was a police trade in.
(Bobbed hammer is not factory, I did it)

Smith & Wesson Model 66-2



Underneath the yoke on the frame is:
ABY05XX (XX's for the last two numbers)
MOD. 66-2

But there are numbers and symbols all over the frame under the grip!

One the yoke itself is:
B23
74886

Under the grip on the left side is:
8
B23
74886
F2
and a LARGE S

Under the grip on the right side is:
A large Q inside a circle
A triangle symbol with a V inside it
and 07566

Any help on year and what all these symbols are would truly be appreciated.

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Old August 3, 2008, 02:49 PM   #340
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bear claw,

By serial number given looks like manufacture date is '83
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Old August 3, 2008, 02:56 PM   #341
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Thank you mward58!
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Old August 3, 2008, 03:03 PM   #342
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RE: 38/44 heavy duty S1547xx. I purchased the Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson, 3rd Edition, Supica to give my Dad and am finding lots of interesting information but I don't see anything that tells me serial numbers versus manufacture dates. Where can I find a source that gives S&W info by serial number?
Pages 395 to 401 in the 3rd. edition.

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Old August 6, 2008, 08:05 AM   #343
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Smith 27-2 nickel 357 mag

This is a pin barrel SN 36xxx, I believe it is early 60's. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old August 6, 2008, 01:41 PM   #344
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This is a pin barrel SN 36xxx, I believe it is early 60's.
I assume you to mean "N" 36xxx. 27-2 serial numbers would begin with a "S" or a "N" and would be located on the bottom of the grip frame (target grips would have to be removed to see it) and sometimes on the forward frame under the cylinder yoke assembly above the model number (cylinder would need to be open to see it).
Serial numbers N1 to N99999 were used from 1969 to 1972. So, N36xxx would be ~1970.

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Old August 8, 2008, 01:09 AM   #345
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I need some help. I can't figure out what model this S&W is. It was given to me and I figured it would be good to learn. I think it's a Model 13 (I think) or Model 10, but don't know revolvers that well. They have the same model, but different caliber, right?

Description:

Barrel 4" S&W 357 MAGNUM
Double action
Fixed sights
6-shot
K-Frame
S/N: D770XXX

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Old August 8, 2008, 01:49 AM   #346
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Barrel 4" S&W 357 MAGNUM
Double action
Fixed sights
6-shot
K-Frame
S/N: D770XXX
1975. Being a 357 would make it a model 13. Model 10 would be a 38 spl.

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Old August 8, 2008, 08:35 AM   #347
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Being a 357 would make it a model 13. Model 10 would be a 38 spl.
Small numbers of .357Mag M10s have been made for law-enforcement special orders, AFAIK always with tapered barrels. However, these guns are rarities; the odds are overwhelming that it's an M13.

Check inside the yoke cut. You should see a model number stamped in the format "MOD. 10-x", the "x" being the engineering revision number. The first number is the model.
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Old August 8, 2008, 11:46 AM   #348
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"MOD 13-1" is imprinted in the yoke cut.
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Old August 8, 2008, 09:22 PM   #349
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Can anyone do a serial number verification that S&W made Serial # DCM6xxx in the last year?

I have one of the 642's that were recently released that are blessedly without the internal lock. The frame is marked 642-1, and I was under the impression that the IL modification was demarked with a 642-2 monicker.

Would this constitute the first time in S&W's history that they have reverse-incremented a model subnumber designation?
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Old August 8, 2008, 11:03 PM   #350
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Can anyone do a serial number verification that S&W made Serial # DCM6xxx in the last year?

I have one of the 642's that were recently released that are blessedly without the internal lock. The frame is marked 642-1, and I was under the impression that the IL modification was demarked with a 642-2 monicker.

Would this constitute the first time in S&W's history that they have reverse-incremented a model subnumber designation?
Too new for any of the books. You'd have to call S&W customer service on it.
I'm glad to see Smith is starting to move away from the locks. I hope they expand the number of models without it.

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