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Old January 21, 2008, 08:58 PM   #1
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Who's the best at making AR-15 uppers?

I'm relatively new to the rifle world. Up to this point I've only owned pistols, and I've only fired M-16s (USAF), SKS (shot a couple of rounds through a neighbors) and my pellet rifle when I was a kid.

So yeah, I got a hankering to get an AR-15. I'm pretty familiar with the system thanks to the US military, and I done enough research that I'm comfortable with my lower receiver choice, and its being shipped to my local FFL. But now I'm looking at uppers.

My lower is a Bushmaster lower with a 6 position telescoping butt-stock.

I'm looking for a standard M-16 style upper with the carry handle sights and a twenty inch barrel. Everything I look at seems to be in roughly the same price bracket (500-600 dollars) so I'm curious as to anyones experiences with the following companies.

Bushmaster,
Stagarms
Armalite
Any other company I should look at

I'm interesting in ordering a complete upper assembly.

Personally, if money wasn't a factor I'd go with a Leitner Wise Gas piston upper. Unfortunately I don't have about 1600 dollars to spend on the gun right now.
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Old January 21, 2008, 09:31 PM   #2
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From my experience, which is limited, I'd go with the M4A3 setup, so you can have your carry handle, or remove it and mount up a scope.

Rock River Arms has good stuff, just brought home a new upper today.
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Old January 21, 2008, 09:38 PM   #3
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There are quite a few who produce excellent uppers. I do have a Bushmaster upper that's been great so far. While I've seen a few gripes about Bushie's carrier key staking, I avoided the issue by purchasing a BCG elsewhere (Bravo Company). I also have a CMMG 20" upper that is a very good upper, and it has a detachable carry handle. You can get it with the permanent carry handle if you like, but I've been happy using just the irons on the detachable.
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Old January 21, 2008, 09:43 PM   #4
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You can pick up an LMT upper for $485 + $120 BCG + $20 charging handle + buis or carrying handle $100+-
$725 +- $50 depending on where and what rear sight/carrying handle you choose. LMT makes one of; if not the best uppers right now.
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Old January 21, 2008, 10:24 PM   #5
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Go hang out at AR15.com equipment exchange. A lot of the guys there are hard core and think nothing about dumping a complete 20" upper for cheap because they bought a new fangled 16" gee whiz upper.

Here's and example:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...f=119&t=505929
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Old January 21, 2008, 10:37 PM   #6
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if you get a flat top upper you will have the versatilety of mounting any oppital unit you like and if you like the carry handle thay make carry handles that clamp onto the flat top upper
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Old January 21, 2008, 11:43 PM   #7
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+1 on LMT
+1 on the flattop

if you're really looking for the best i would look at LMT and Noveske.

Noveske comes with the BCG and a rear sight,unlike the LMT.just fyi when pricing(with the M4 types anyway,not sure about other models).

my LMT upper came with handguards and a charging handle for $485,but it doesnt seem to be the norm.
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Old January 22, 2008, 04:00 PM   #8
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Superior Arms out of Iowa makes a lot of the uppers and lowers for many of the more "famous" companies. I'd give them a call or visit their website.
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Old January 22, 2008, 05:32 PM   #9
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For what it is worth, this is what I did with a CMT/STAG Upper Reciver Combo and a White Oak Armament medium contour mid-length barrel from Rainiers. Stag is a very good product at a very good price.
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Old January 22, 2008, 08:23 PM   #10
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http://whiteoakarms.com

Might be out of your league but they make great uppers. Maybe I can talk you into a A-2 butt stock with a WOP upper and shoot some high power.
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Old January 23, 2008, 05:07 PM   #11
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I have had excellent results with CMMG. They have hundreds of configurations, barrel lengths, and barrel contours, and have a very good reputation for quality.
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Old January 23, 2008, 05:35 PM   #12
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Another +1 for LMT, though how much AR you need, price wise, really depends on how much you intend to shoot it and how hard you plan to run it when you are shooting it. If you're just looking for a basic range plinker you'll probably be well served by a much cheaper AR set up than if you're interested in using it for serious defensive shooting/combat marksmanship training or are looking for a rig for long range target shooting, etc.
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Old January 23, 2008, 07:05 PM   #13
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Of those you mentioned I would prefer Stag Arms. LMT is the best IMO.
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Old January 23, 2008, 07:20 PM   #14
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What advantages/disadvantages of 1:7 vs 1:8 rifling?
Is chrome desirable?
Sorry for the dumb questions.
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Old January 23, 2008, 07:21 PM   #15
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i would buy a Baer, they tend to make good stuff
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Old January 23, 2008, 08:21 PM   #16
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I'm pretty happy with my CMMG upper. If you get a flat top you can still use a carry handle and have the option of optics being easily mounted at a later date.
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Old January 24, 2008, 05:48 AM   #17
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Chrome is desirable in a defensive carbine, because it aids in reliability, longevity, cleaning, and it is more resistant to corrosion. It's only drawback is that they can at times decrease accuracy slightly, but even this is exaggerated by many and varies from barrel to barrel depending on how well it was done.

1/8 and 1/7 will allow you to shoot higher grain bullets (70gr+) with better accuracy.
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Old January 24, 2008, 09:07 AM   #18
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I'm looking for a standard M-16 style upper with the carry handle sights and a twenty inch barrel.
A-1 or A-2 ?

i have a few laying around, one is an A-1 Colt M-16, NIB, Triangle hand guards, ready to "drop in" your lower, head space checked with MilSpec "Field Gage"
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