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Old January 18, 2008, 01:48 AM   #1
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Faster Draw: Neutral vs. FBI Holster Cant

I carry a Ruger SP101 3" IWB for CCW.

I have noticed that while the FBI holster cant makes the revolver slightly more concealable, and the break-wristed draw naturally pushes the gun to the front for better point shooting, it appears to be a slower draw than from a neutral cant holster.

With a neutral cant holster, you can fire just above the holster as soon as you clear leather. I would think that this would make more sense for CCW.

What is your opinion?
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Old January 18, 2008, 08:36 AM   #2
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IMHO, the desired angle comes from the position you carry your pistol on your body. As you move your pistol further rearward, away from 3:00, the need for the grip to be more and more angled, to meet the natural angle of your hand, becomes much more comfortable and easy to draw. The pistol grip itself has an influence and one must take into account all these factors when choosing a holster that suits them.
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Old January 18, 2008, 08:41 AM   #3
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My duty holster (Safariland SS III) is an FBI cant and it's very fast getting the gun into action.

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Old January 18, 2008, 09:51 AM   #4
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I find straight drop holsters to be marginally faster. I'm not sure if the difference is enough to worry about, though. There are plenty of lightning fast drawers on both sides of that fence.
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Old January 18, 2008, 10:29 AM   #5
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With a neutral cant holster, you can fire just above the holster as soon as you clear leather.
Why cant you do this with an FBI cant?

For me, the better concealment the FBI cant provides is more important than a possible split second difference in the draw.
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Old January 18, 2008, 11:44 AM   #6
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I find the cant design much faster and pointing better on the initial round. Probably the best two point shppters of the 20th centuri D A Bryce and Bill Jordan both used forward canted ho;sters.
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Old January 18, 2008, 01:10 PM   #7
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I too prefer the FBI can't and sometimes more of an angle. I find it is more comfortable as well as faster on the draw. Much depends on where it is carried and what type of gun.
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Old January 18, 2008, 04:11 PM   #8
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Honestly, if it can be concealed, the fastest draw I have ever found is appendix with a slight butt rearward cant. Problem is, you have to wear baggy cover garments and keep it zipped or buttoned.
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Old January 19, 2008, 12:34 AM   #9
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I did some draw drills tonight with my Sig in a SERPA holster.

The neutral position is a smidge faster and smoother. However...it makes for harder concealment as the butt sticks out further.
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Old January 19, 2008, 05:27 PM   #10
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If I may...

The 'fastest' depends on the shooter's body make up.

The way an individual's arms move (shoulders, elbows and wrists), the relative placement of the waist line, and even size of waist line will all alter the equation.

The late Bill Jordan, in his book No Second Place Winner showed several different holsters ranging from an extreme muzzle forward angle to an extreme muzzle rearward angle. He said they were all equally fast. He commonly used a somewhat muzzle rear angled holster, but that may have been simply what was common in the Border Patrol at the time.

I would urge a new shooter to borrow some holsters and see what is most comfortable and what seems to require the least amount of body twisting and juggling to draw the weapon. That is going to be the fastest holster you can find.

Or, if you work for a department, you take what they tell you to wear and practice with it. Sigh...
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Old January 19, 2008, 05:32 PM   #11
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Neither is faster, it's the shooter and not the holster who determines how fast the draw is.
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Old January 19, 2008, 05:33 PM   #12
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Wear whichever is more comfortable for you and pratice with it. With pratice you'll just as fast with either one.
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