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Old December 8, 2007, 02:51 PM   #1
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S&W 58 in 44 Magnum ?

Did Smith & Wesson ever offer a Model 58, i.e., a fixed-sight 4-inch barrel M&P-style N-frame, in 44 Magnum ?

Even a limited special run for a distributor ?
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Old December 8, 2007, 06:46 PM   #2
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Not as such.

A model 58 is a .41 Magnum, by definition. If S&W had put together such a revolver (and I like the idea, by the way) it would be listed as something other than a model 58.

I have seen a .45 ACP revolver built on a model 58 frame. Some enterprizing 'smith came up with a M25 cylinder and a .45 barrel and made a (equivilent to) 1950 M&P in .45 ACP. (Neat gun, by the way.) The frame was still marked m58, of course. The same thing could be done in .44 Magnum, of course.

Have you seen one, or just heard of one?
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Old December 8, 2007, 07:12 PM   #3
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Have not seen one that I can recall at the moment. There might be something like it in Hamilton Bowen's book though.

Have had a Model 58 and enjoyed it.

Shoot a fair amount of 44 and think it would be good to have such a gun.

S&W has made a similar gun in 44 Special (tapered barrel instead of bull barrel) called the Thunder Ranch Special.
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Old December 8, 2007, 08:04 PM   #4
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No S&W did not make a fixed sight .44 mag N frame...


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Old December 8, 2007, 08:08 PM   #5
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Never heard of a factory fixed sight .44Mag but the M58 does get converted to other such useful calibers. If it were me I'd rather convert the .38-44 Heavy Duty because I like the slim barrel profile that much better. They make dandy .44Specials!
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Old December 9, 2007, 05:03 PM   #6
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I think some years back I remember seeeing one converted to .44 Special; but never in .44 Magnum.
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Old December 9, 2007, 05:42 PM   #7
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No S&W did not make a fixed sight .44 mag N frame...
629-3 Carry Comp and Carry Comp II are just two of the fixed sight N frames in .44 magnum that S&W has made over the years.

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Old December 10, 2007, 01:18 AM   #8
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No S&W did not make a fixed sight .44 mag N frame...
Yes they did - seehttp://www.lewhorton.com/PCGUNS.html
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Old December 10, 2007, 01:26 AM   #9
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Did Smith & Wesson ever offer a Model 58, i.e., a fixed-sight 4-inch barrel M&P-style N-frame, in 44 Magnum ?

Even a limited special run for a distributor ?
Short answer: No.

Any gun marked Model 58 started out life chambered for the .41 Remington Magnum cartridge.

I knew a local California gunshop owner who converted a Model 58 to a .44 Magnum by swapping out the barrel and cylinder with a .44 Mag barrel & cylinder. He refinished the front sight with the same low ramp style on the .41 Mag. but pinned in place.

This was his daily carry gun inside the store, loaded with 4 rounds of .44 Special and 2 of Magnum.
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Old December 30, 2007, 08:54 PM   #10
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Actually, I just saw one for sale on GunBroker from this guy: http://www.noconeetrader.com/
In his description, he said that the NYPD ordered some of these and then backed out. Less than 100 were made and they were sold on the civilian market. I don't recall the model #, but it was definitely exactly like a Model 58 but in .44 Magnum. This guy knows his Smiths and this one had a factory letter with this explanation.
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Old December 30, 2007, 11:17 PM   #11
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David Clements customized this M58 for me, still a .41 mag. He has also converted a M28 .357 to a .44 Special. I am sure it could be done but I think that would be pushing it a bit. Just because you can does not mean you should. I see little to be gained from converting a perfectly good 4" 41 to a 44 Mag.

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Old January 2, 2008, 09:53 PM   #12
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I agree with Chesster. I have a magazine featuring a 58 converted to .44 by H. Bowen. Although fine machining and craftsmanship it was a waste of a perfectly good .41 and little was gained in ballistics.
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Although fine machining and craftsmanship it was a waste of a perfectly good .41 and little was gained in ballistics.
That depends entirely on whether or not you're on the receiving end of that fine craftsmanship. It WAS worth it to somebody.
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Old January 3, 2008, 10:27 AM   #14
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I'm one of these crazy people that thinks the .41 mag is better than the 44. I like the .44 too, just not as much as the 41. It has nothing to do with taking the road less traveled.
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Old January 3, 2008, 11:15 AM   #15
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Well I'm one of those nuts that almost utterly refuses to jump on the .45Colt (in Rugers) bandwagon. I have a few but for the most part stick to my .44's. We all have our preferences.
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Old January 3, 2008, 11:17 AM   #16
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Yes, I've heard rumors of a few .44 Mag. Model 58s that were factory produced on special order.

They're like the 9mm Model 19s, the .38 Special Model 586s, etc.
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Old January 3, 2008, 12:38 PM   #17
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I'm one of these crazy people that thinks the .41 mag is better than the 44. I like the .44 too, just not as much as the 41. It has nothing to do with taking the road less traveled.
20, you probably are, but there are more of us in the same boat. The only advantage for most tasks in the .44 is the variety of ammo and the shorty loads in the form of 44 Special and Russian. Sticking to handloads, I would never miss my .44 Mag Revolver.
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Old January 3, 2008, 03:53 PM   #18
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I knew I was opening a can of worms when I said that. Flame away!
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Old January 3, 2008, 11:37 PM   #19
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They're like the 9mm Model 19s, the .38 Special Model 586s, etc.
Same guy had a .38spl marked Model 19. It was actually a .357, but the barrel was mismarked.
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