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Old March 27, 2000, 06:31 PM   #1
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I am planning a road trip that will take me through Idaho, Oregon and Washington State. I have a valid Utah State CCW. I want to carry in the car during this trip. My CCW should get me through Idaho, but what are the laws concerning carrying in a vehicle in Oregon, and Washington State for non-residents?. In Idaho, will my Utah CCW allow me to transport a loaded gun in the car (under the passenger side seat, for example), or must the gun always be on my person?

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Old March 27, 2000, 07:04 PM   #2
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Go to www.packing.org. You will find all the answers there.

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Old March 28, 2000, 01:51 PM   #3
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Thanks. Got the info I needed. Now, if I can remember which states have which laws during the trip, I'll be OK.

Lets' see, in Utah I can carry concealed or conceal a loaded gun in the car. In Idaho, I can carry concealed. If I keep the gun in the car, it must be visible. In Oregon, the gun cannot be "readily available," and in Washington the gun must be concealed and unloaded and the car locked whenever I am not in the car (which is prudent anyway when there is a gun in the car.)

Can anyone comment on how a confused out-of-state CCW holder would be treated by an LEO if he is not quite following these laws?
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Old March 28, 2000, 02:13 PM   #4
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My read on Idaho's law 18-3302(9)is that while in a motor vehicle you cannot carry "on or about your person" without a permit. Thus, if you have a permit, you may have a concealed weapon "about your person," which includes the passenger compartment of a motor vehicle. I read the following two sentences "This shall not apply to any pistol or revolver located in plain view whether it is loaded or unloaded. A firearm may be concealed legally in a motor vehicle so long as the weapon is disassembled or unloaded." to apply only to individuals who do not have CCW permits; i.e., exceptions to the general prohibition against having (concealed)weapons in cars. Thus, it appears you may keep your loaded firearm concealed in your car, since you have a valid permit issued in another state.

Anecdotally, that's the general intent as discussed in a legislative committee I was present for this spring, and consistent with my interpretation when I was a prosecutor. That's no guarantee against a prosecution, but most prosecutors here are of a like mind.
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