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Old August 22, 2007, 08:24 AM   #1
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25-06 Savage 110FP, Should I buy?!?!

So I stumbled upon a cheap 25-06 Savage 110FP at my local gun shop yesterday, it intrigued me. I've never looked at the 25-06 too much, but I knew what it was. So I decided to look at some ballistics this morning, HOLY SMOKES!!! Why would I even question any other round? That thing is like a laser beam, fast, straight, it is a killing machine!

So, I want to hear from you, what do people think of it? Best game taken? Use as a long-range varmint rig? Let me know how sweet this round is, I'm looking for a reason to go buy this gun this evening!!!

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Old August 22, 2007, 08:40 AM   #2
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If it was a 110 FLP I would be asking for the dealers phone number
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Old August 22, 2007, 08:45 AM   #3
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If it was an FLP I wouldn't have even considered it, lol
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Old August 22, 2007, 02:01 PM   #4
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I did the same thing, happened on one and had to have the 25-06, but I haven't had the chance to shoot it yet, still looking at optics.
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Old August 22, 2007, 02:19 PM   #5
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I'm now torn...a used Savage 110FP or am I going to be ballsy and try out the Mossberg 4x4?!?!
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Old August 22, 2007, 03:38 PM   #6
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I stumbled onto a Savage 110FP Tactical in 25-06 over at savageshooters a couple of days ago, wearing a bedded B&C stock for $360!!! I next will see it under the Christmas tree!!!
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Old August 22, 2007, 06:50 PM   #7
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Full ... seriously now

You know you have been lusting after a Savage for a while now. Look back on those posts from the last month from you. And a 25-06 it's like a .243 on steriods all the advantages and none of the disadvantages. and that is from a guy who has a savage .243 and just bought a remmy 700 sps varmint in .243

Go for it you know you want it

Why do I all of a sudden feel like a Pimp.

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Old August 22, 2007, 07:24 PM   #8
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I will vouch for both the 25-06 and Savage rifles. Mine is a 112 fvss. Shoots like crazy. So far i haven't been able to beat the .300's" groups down to the .200"s. Hey, it's only a Savage with some minor upgrades. This kind of accuracy from a rifle that may be a little heavy but will reach like a varmint rig and hit like a .270. What's not to be in love with. Thanks to the 25-06, I've never even considered one of the all time classic cartridges, the .270 Win. I've shot 5 whitetail bucks with this rig and they all weighed more on the hoof than average. About 175 I'd guess. I don't shoot everything that comes along. At the time of these hunts I only used 100 grain bullets and yet none of these deer so much as wiggled an ear after impact. Granted I was sitting on watch and they were still, but that's what we want right. Now I load 115 grain ballistic tips for long range hunting and use 75 grain v-max for woodchucks. With my polished 26" barrel the 115's will approach or beat 3100 f.p.s. The 75's around 3600-3700. I would recommend both the cartridge and the rifle. Just my opinion and some experiences.
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Old August 22, 2007, 07:36 PM   #9
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The .25-06 has been described by Art Eatman as "neither fish nor fowl", and I kindof agree with that. It's an excellent round for someone:

1. Who doesn't shoot a LOT (because it's an overbore barrel burner to some extent), and
2. Wants ONE rifle caliber do it all, from long-range varminting to long-range Western hunting, to younameit up to elk or caribou sized critters.

But it's really neither fish (big game, where typically .260/6.5mm and up is recommened) nor fowl (varminter, where a 6mm on down is recommended). So you could look at it that way, or look at it as the perfect compromise/sweet spot. Is the glass half empty or half full? It comes down to what other calibers you have, and how many rifles total do you want to have to "cover the bases" so to speak. One might have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 15, or more calibers, just depending on how specialized you want to get.

I had a .25-06 and got rid of it becuase I already had both a .243 and a .270 win. In the heavier bullets, it's extremely similar to (yet still inferior) the .270 win. In the lighter bullets, it's extremely similar to (and yet only a smidgeon better) than the .243 win. So it was a redundant round for ME, and I wanted to simplify. Now if I wanted ONE gapper to cover me from .223 rem up to a .30 caliber, it'd be in the running, and would serve as the better gapper in that situation than .243 does, particularly if you do any western sheep, goat, mulie, or pronghorn hunting. But it's not the better gapper if you're a fan of (own) a .270, which is easier on barrels, cheaper to buy factory ammo for, and slightly superior for large game.

Another thing I didn't like is that some .25-06 rifles with 1 in 10 twists won't shoot the 120 grain bullets well; some will, some won't, so you take a risk if you like shooting heavy-for-caliber bullets. A couple manufacturers (IIRC) offer a 1 in 9" bbl for .25s, but most don't - most are 1 in 10.

It's really too bad that the .25-06 became so popular with the 6.5-06 did not, and remains a wildcat, since the latter is a better "goldilocks" cartridge in the .30-06 family, and not as overbore. If the 6.5-06 had taken off, it would probably make near-obsolete BOTH the .270 win and the .25-06, which would be fine with me. What's with this in-between caliber crap anyway? (.25s & .27s). "Deer calibers" should be either .22, .24, .26, .28, or .30 (i.e. 5.5mm, 6.0mm, 6.5mm, 7.0mm, or 7.5mm), not .25 or .27.

The .25-06 is definitely a laser-like trajectory though; that it is.
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Old August 22, 2007, 07:49 PM   #10
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I'd buy it. They shoot like a banjo string and don't kick all that bad. A replacement barrel won't cost a king's ransome either if you shoot the original out. THAT will take a LOT of 4350 or 4831 to do. With the Nosler 100 gr. Partition it will do an admirable job up to elk and maybe them too. My brother has a reworked M98 with a Timney trigger, B&C composite stock, and a Douglas air gauged barrel that shoots 1/2 inch groups. NOTHING he has shot with it required a second shot or coup-de-grace. My .02. CB.
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Old August 22, 2007, 07:54 PM   #11
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I guess I don't see it the way Firstfreedom does. The 25-06 is very far superior to the .243 winchester for anything and everything. Big or small if you are talking horsepower. It is, in my opinion and many others, a full big game equal to the .270 win. when loaded in the 120 grain bullet at 3000-3100 f.p.s. range. Great sectional density. And surely reaches with anything. My opinion would be full support, and equal effectiveness, for both the 25-06 and the .270 win. on anything up to and including elk. If it's too big for the .25-06, I doubt the .270 will make any difference in the real world. Anything bigger gets the .300 Win. Mag. We don't have anything bigger than deer or bears in N.Y. Also some cartridges seem easy to make shoot well. I've had great success handloading this round. Good luck with your decision.
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Old August 22, 2007, 08:20 PM   #12
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What is the difference in the FP and the FLP?
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Old August 22, 2007, 08:28 PM   #13
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Old August 22, 2007, 08:56 PM   #14
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I have the Stevens 200 in 25-06 with a nikon buckmaster 3x9x40, leupold rings and bases, sweeeeeeeeeet awesome shooter
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Old August 22, 2007, 09:22 PM   #15
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Final Decision...

timyarb...I know I have but I passed this one up today.

I went back to the gun shop, looked it over really well. I'd say 90-95% easy...really a truly good rifle. But, I think I'm just going to opt back to my original game plan for my centerfire varmint rig.

After discussing it with my close gun buddy, I have made a decision. I think I'm going to go with a 308 10FP, prolly put an after market stock on it, my Bushnell Legend 5-15x40 Mil-dot and get the entire gun KG coated in camo. I want to set up a good centerfire varminter/tactical rig, and I think that would be the best combo. I've never been a fan of long actions anyway, especially with the quick second shot need. I want to be able to cycle a round quick if I need to put #2 in a critter to put it down humanely.

I think I'd have to go with First on this one. I think a man with over 10,000 posts knows his poop. You could look at it as half full or half empty. For a medium game to varmint, that caliber sits in a funky spot. Good enough for this, extremely well off for that, notta for another. While it is a nice rifle, the 308 will be cheaper to shoot/reload in the end and still perform well I think.

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P.S. - It did hurt to let it go, but I know I will be happier in the long run
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Old August 23, 2007, 03:29 PM   #16
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Just for the record, I don't think the number of posts someone has typed reflects in any way their wisdom or knowledge, rather it only shows that they spend a lot of time looking at a computer screen. I hope you enjoy whatever you purchase.
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