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Old August 19, 2007, 09:50 AM   #1
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Shotgun for home defense

I've owned rifles and many handguns, but I think I would like to get a shotgun to keep at the ready for home defense. Looking at the selection in the gun store, it appeared that I have at least two choices of moderately priced guns to choose from: The Remington 870 and the Mossberg 500. Any thoughts on which of these is the better choice for my needs or are there others I should be considering?
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Old August 19, 2007, 10:57 AM   #2
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Both are excellent guns. The safety on the Mossberg is a bit more ambidextrous but aside from that they are both on the same page (Mossberg is probably going to be a little bit cheaper new or used). I also belive that Benelli makes a tactical model of the Nova pump. If you are looking to spend a bit more money the Benelli M1 Super 90 is sweet. Just my .02
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Old August 19, 2007, 11:35 AM   #3
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Either or evena better answer... BOTH. I have mutlple 870s, 1 mossie (soon the 2nd), and a benelli. Best thing is to fire each and see which one you like. I like the 870s since owning 1 for 15 years, being issued one in the marines, and I think it feels better than the mossie in terms on sloppy-ness. But you can not go wrong with either.

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Old August 20, 2007, 09:12 PM   #4
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If you plan on giving it a pistol grip then go with the 870.It allows you to
manipulate the safty without moving your hand from the pistol grip.
The 870's are a tad bit heavier than the 500's/590's but if you do a riot gun
configuration than the extra weight isn't really a bad thing since it allows you the fire multiple shots without the muzzle jumping as high.I'd go with the 870.
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Old August 20, 2007, 09:23 PM   #5
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new england 10 guage
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Old August 20, 2007, 09:35 PM   #6
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hey spoolup,,,, nice shot guns

i have an 870 and 1100,,, be hard to pick just one

i like them Remingtons

my personal taste on a shot gun is just a regular stock,,,, like the mossburg in the pic,,, i just think they handle better,,, but hay,,,, different strokes

get the 870

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Old August 21, 2007, 05:31 AM   #7
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Old August 21, 2007, 08:56 AM   #8
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I like the Mossberg 500...More user friendly location of the saftey and slide release, shell elevator does not get in the way when loading, duel shell ejectors, and larger standard magazine capacity...The 870 is also a fine weapon, but I prefer the Mossberg for the above reasons...And it costs less.
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Old August 21, 2007, 09:05 AM   #9
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Mossy - mine came with a 28" rifled slug barrell and a shorter 24" (I think) shot barrell. I paid less than $300 at Wally for it and its been a fine gun.
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Old August 21, 2007, 09:08 AM   #10
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For HD, I went with an 870 Express Magnum. I keep 00's in it for HD role.
The Butler Creek folding stock is okay, but I had to add a Limbsaver to it.

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Old August 21, 2007, 09:56 AM   #11
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Mossy Persuader is a nice choice, but they tend to rattle and make noise. No big deal, I guess....
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Old August 21, 2007, 11:28 AM   #12
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I'm also looking at getting the Mossberg 500 Cruiser model with the pistol grip for SD, But I don't know if I should get the 20g or the 12g. I'm thinking there are a bunch of people that use 12g, but I know that a 410 has the kncokdown of a 357mag, s0 I think the 20g might be suitable and cheaper.
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Old August 22, 2007, 06:54 AM   #13
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My preference is for the Mossy, and while looking at picking up another one I came across the Maverick 88, a cloned Mossberg. It was at Walmart for $165.

I'll be leaving it hidden in the truck, always available to theft/confiscation/ or emergency use.
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Old August 22, 2007, 11:25 AM   #14
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They're both great but my preference is the 870.
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Old August 26, 2007, 09:23 AM   #15
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Either the Remington 870 or the Mossberg 500 are fine guns for HD. Both can be purchased new in a HD configuration. Depending on how you may want to modify it, one or the other might be better suited to your needs. Typically, left handers prefer the Mossberg due to the placement of the safety. If you're going to put pistol grip on the shotgun, a Remington might be better.

I have both, and they have both proven rugged and reliable.
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Old August 26, 2007, 08:05 PM   #16
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I own one of each and I love 'em both, but if I was forced to choose I think I'd pick my Mossberg 20" 8 shot. Not that it's necessarily better than the Remington, Mossbergs just appeal to me.
(First post here on TFL by the way).
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Old August 26, 2007, 08:20 PM   #17
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Old August 26, 2007, 08:50 PM   #18
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As far as quality, I do not think there is a difference between the two. They are both excellent firearms. Best thing I would recommend would be to actually hold and work both of them, and go with whichever one feels better to you.

Personally, I prefer semi-autos so I would be looking at a Remington 11-87 but that is just me.
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Old August 27, 2007, 09:20 PM   #19
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After admiring the fine shotguns pictured above, I noted that most of them need something more than the many addons shown.

THEY NEED WEAR MARKS!.....
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Old August 27, 2007, 09:47 PM   #20
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Wear marks?

How's this:


Of course that is with a new barrel and after I Alumahided the darn thing. It didn't stay on very well. Even a trace of the silver is showing over the exection port and the loading gate I suppose when my Wingmaster gets back from refinish I will need to re-bless it, It's only 30 or so years old.
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Old August 29, 2007, 12:06 PM   #21
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I have an 870 12 ga. and of course it is always a good choice, but the shotgun I keep loaded for HD is a Winchester 1300 (18.5") 20ga. I know they are out of production, but some are still around in inventory. Add ons are not as easy to find as 870, but if you get the setup you want you probably won't need to change much anyway. But why the 1300 for me? I like the smaller size, fast action, and it is just a good fit to my shoulder.

For me, I am not worried about the hitting power issue between 12ga. & 20ga. I have been convinced for a long time that the BG will never be able to tell you the difference if he gets hit with a 20ga.
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Old August 29, 2007, 02:56 PM   #22
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I love my 870 wingmaster, my fathers model 1300 'defender' winchester is a great gun also, very nice hd gun

http://www.jgsales.com/index.php/rif.../cPath/209_302

They have some mossy 500's in now, did have some very nice 870's from police cruisers before, but don't see them now...
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Old August 29, 2007, 08:22 PM   #23
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You can also get a new Mossberg 500 from Big 5. They have a model in there right now for $250.
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Old August 29, 2007, 11:18 PM   #24
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I have 3 Winchester 1300 Defenders for HD. I like them, but they're getting harder to find at a reasonable price. Accessories are hard to find, but that's not an issue for me since I have no desire to accessorize them.

If I were buying a new shotgun for HD, I'd probably go with an 870, preferrably a Wingmaster or Police model. That said, I do have two 870's, both express models, and they have always been 100% reliable.
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Old August 30, 2007, 12:08 AM   #25
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As a lefty, most tell me I should actually prefer the Mossberg because of its tang safety. But I learned on the 870 about ten years ago and after still not seeing one quit, it has just earned my respect.

I have large enough hands to manipulate the controls without a problem and have fired tens of thousands of rounds through various 870s. Those things just don't quit.

I have no doubt the Mossy is a good shotgun. The one's I have handled haven't been as smooth as my Wingmaster. But that could be any number of things as I've only ever handled Mossbergs in used gun racks at various pawn shops and gun stores.
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