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Old June 20, 2007, 08:13 PM   #1
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Swag or Ream - which is best???

When it comes to primer pockets on military brass, is it better to ream or swag?

What brand equipment works best?

Also, what is the best way to get the Military primers out?
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Old June 20, 2007, 08:28 PM   #2
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If I have several thousand rounds of military brass to rework, I buy a package of primer pins and get started using the normal RCBS dies for that cartridge. I use the RCBS primer pocket swage as it does a more uniform job than reaming. If the flash holes are rough punched, I use the Lyman flash hole uniforming tool to straighten them up. You only have to do this with the first loading so why not do it right? If possible, I like military brass for my bench guns. It lasts longer and if properly worked, is as accurate or more accurate than the brass costing several times more. I use it in 38 special, 30 carbine, 45 acp, 223, 308, and 3006.
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Old June 20, 2007, 09:35 PM   #3
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How about trimming the brass, do you trim first, then full length size?
Or should you size then trim?
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Old June 20, 2007, 09:52 PM   #4
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I use a RCBS chamfer tool and ream out the pockets.
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Old June 20, 2007, 10:34 PM   #5
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I resize, trim, debur, chamfer, swage the primer pocket with the Dillon Super Swage, Uniform/debur the flash hole, clean/uniform the primer pocket...generally in that order.
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Old June 21, 2007, 08:59 AM   #6
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reaming removes metal, swageing is best !
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Old June 21, 2007, 09:26 PM   #7
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I picked up an RCBS Swage tool and a Lee decapping tool. I broke the pin on the decapping tool with the first piece of brass I tried to de-prime. : - (
BUMMER! ! ! ! !
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Old June 22, 2007, 03:36 AM   #8
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These items are slow to use but work great.

You might try these to deprime -

http://www.sinclairintl.com/cgi-bin/...WPX&type=store

http://www.sinclairintl.com/cgi-bin/...WBX&type=store


I use this reamer with a Wilson Case Trimmer -

http://www.sinclairintl.com/cgi-bin/...210&type=store
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Old June 22, 2007, 05:05 AM   #9
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It looks like those are for pistol cases, I need to get the primers out of military .308 and .223 brass.
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Old June 22, 2007, 08:34 AM   #10
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They have them for 223 & 308. Click on select cartridge.
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Old June 22, 2007, 09:30 AM   #11
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I tried Dillon's swage tool, and was not happy with it. It supports the brass from the inside as the punch swages the primer pocket. When using military brass of mixed varieties, with different head thicknesses, I was not getting a consistent swage.

If you load a lot of mil brass, get a Dillon 1050 press, it swages primer pockets while holding a case by the rim. I had much better results with that.
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Old June 22, 2007, 03:04 PM   #12
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LT- the price on that RL 1050 is awful high compared to the primer pocket swager, that's why I have the swager, not the 1050! I use the PPS by Dillon and then run the brass through the RCBS swager to make sure the primer pockets are all the same diameter. Yeah, it's more work, but the result is worth the extra effort. I use milspec brass in my 30/06, and my ammo comes out great. There IS a difference in the fitment of primers, RP seat the easiest, followed by CCI, Federal, and WW seat the tightest. Maybe this difference is due to my equipment, and not to mfg. differences, bit that is my experience.
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Old June 22, 2007, 03:36 PM   #13
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Crow - right you are, 1050s are not for everyone.
But if you shoot a lot, they are worth it. I run matches at the local club, and routinely shoot 1000 rounds a week.
Between a day job and 2 teenage sons I don't have a lot of time to reload. 2 1050s are a big time saver for me, one for large and one for small primer cartridges.
Primer pocket swaging is just a bonus.
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