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View Poll Results: Round for bullseye and sniper
.22 LR 8 6.35%
.308 62 49.21%
30-06 11 8.73%
30-30 0 0%
7mm Rem. Mag. 7 5.56%
300 Weatherby Mag. 0 0%
.408/.416 Tech 1 0.79%
7mm Mauser 0 0%
8mm Mauser 3 2.38%
.223 6 4.76%
.222 1 0.79%
.243 2 1.59%
.270 2 1.59%
7.62x39 0 0%
7.62x54 R 7 5.56%
50 BMG 16 12.70%
Other not listed here. 31 24.60%
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Old May 28, 2007, 02:44 PM   #1
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Best Sniping Round

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What in your opinion and experience is the best snipping round available in the market. Let us poll.
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Old May 28, 2007, 02:55 PM   #2
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Snipping? You mean like scissors...? If I were going to snip something, I would choose a round based upon distance to target, size of target, the target's armor or lack thereof, and weather conditions. When I snip varmints, I like a nice light and fast bullet, when I snip bigger critters, bullet weight increases.
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Old May 28, 2007, 03:20 PM   #3
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There are many nice .308 rifles and a lot of high-quality .308 ammunition out there, so it would probably be at the top of the list.

The .300 Winchester Magnum and .338 Lapua are also top-of-the-line choices.

.50 BMG is great but high-quality rifles and ammunition are expensive and rare.

I'm sure the 7.62x54R would do well if you could find some match-grade ammo.
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Old May 28, 2007, 03:27 PM   #4
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I like Fiskers.They are inexpensive, sharp and snip pretty clean.
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Old May 28, 2007, 03:28 PM   #5
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Does snipping require a spotter? If so, what is his role exactly? Does he hold the back-up shears?

As far as what's the "best" it would probably depend on alot of factors, some being:
  1. range
  2. wind
  3. level of penetration needed
  4. desired platform (i.e. which chamberings are available for the gun you want to use).

That said, a skilled marksman can overcome most variables like wind, humidity, heat, etc., with a wide variety of calibers.
For taking out engine blocks, and EOD, etc., most seem to lean towards the .50 BMG firing platforms (Barrett, etc.)
For squad designated marksmen, most are being issued the Crazy Horse build of the M-14/M-21, which is chambered for 7.62 NATO. This is also the same chambering used by our Marine Scout Snipers, etc. for most work, although primarily from a different platform.
Also, I'm not in the military, so this is just stuff that I've read and heard from friends that are enlisted. Maybe some active duty guys can be more helpful.

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Old May 28, 2007, 03:34 PM   #6
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Don't forget about police snippers ! .223 and .308 seem to rule the urban SWAT units, but 'out in the county' there are a hodgepodge of rifles used for the purpose ranging from 30.06's to 7mm Mag to .338 win mag. Yeah, Fiskars are pretty good, but Gerber makes some damn nice snippers
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Old May 28, 2007, 03:56 PM   #7
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i chose the 408 chey tac, which could have been the 408 tech you listed, but i wasnt sure so i picked other. i picked it based on it being the best choice for almost anything. enough power for hard targets, but a flatter trajectory than the infamous bmg round
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Old May 28, 2007, 03:59 PM   #8
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There are many different rounds used for sniper work. Depending on the area, purpose, range, and many other things.

There isnt one do-all round for use as a "sniper"

I dont think many of us here are snipers per-se but there are a few people who shoot long range varmints and targets. There are many many different calibers that can be used for these purposes.

The longest shots I have taken were about 300 yards and they were on game animals.
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Old May 28, 2007, 04:01 PM   #9
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I dont think any of us here are snipers...
i wouldnt be so sure. im not, but i would bet there are several here who are
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Old May 28, 2007, 04:20 PM   #10
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Sorry forgot the M on any i meant to say that i didnt think many of us were snipers maybe a couple. Most of us are just hunters and target shooters though.
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Old May 28, 2007, 04:23 PM   #11
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I like the 7.62x54R Because It's cheap to practice with surplus Ammo. Then there is high quality new Ammo available.

I might try to cut paper with this.
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Old May 28, 2007, 04:25 PM   #12
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Snipping

My wife works in a fabric store, does a lot of work at the cutting table (cutting the yardage off a bolt of fabric that the customer wants). So, does that make her a "professional snipper"? BTW, she says Gingher is better than Fiskars.

Getting on topic, +1 on all the points made already regarding variables of circumstance. IMHO, there can be no perfect round for all situations. As an all-around good one that covers a wide range of possibilities, I expect that the .308 is hard to beat, and I suppose that's why it's the usual chambering in general use by US military snipers. Leaving out special purpose/situation rounds (see below). So I voted accordingly.

I didn't see .300 Win Mag listed on the poll...think 190gr Match; Federal's been packaging it in GI ammo cans lately.
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Old May 28, 2007, 04:32 PM   #13
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Can't answer

Depends on the range. Tell me the possible intended "range of ranges", then I can answer.

out to 50, 100, 150, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 800, 1000, 1250, 1500, more?


.45 acp & .22lr are bullseye rounds.

Oh yes, and for snipping fabric, I'd go with a full-auto Thompson 1927 - it's heavy enough to stay on target and "snip" a straight line in the cloth.
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Old May 28, 2007, 05:07 PM   #14
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.300 Winchester Magnum
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Old May 28, 2007, 05:22 PM   #15
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+1 for Fiskars! They stay sharp forever!
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Old May 28, 2007, 06:06 PM   #16
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My snipper (sic) is a bolt action .30-06 commercial Mauser I bought back in the early Pleistocene. It's plain, reliable, and has shot 1 moa (give or take a hair depending on the ammo) with different loads. I'm not Gunny Hathcock and don't expect to nail somebody thru the neck at 800 yds. I bought it for Mastodons and cave bear, but they went extinct.
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Old May 28, 2007, 07:23 PM   #17
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I'm gonna go with .338 Lapua, at least for situations where overpenetration isn't a concern.
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Old May 28, 2007, 08:25 PM   #18
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Well if I'm going to be doing any sniping I always bring a shotgun, just remember 3 round limit when hunting them.
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Old May 28, 2007, 08:50 PM   #19
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Informative and hilarious! What more could one ask for in a thread? Well, aside from nekkid pics, but, let's not go there.

IDK, the .308 seems to be pretty good at what it does. There are really good tack driver rifles in that caliber and a LOT of great loads for it, seemingly everywhere. It's a good choice. Then again, the same can be said for the 30.06. It would be a toss up between those two for me. Hard to choose a favorite between them.

And as for snippers, Fiskars does the snipping around here. From linen sheets to chicken bone and everything in between.
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Old May 28, 2007, 08:59 PM   #20
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Considering that our military has bottomless pocketbooks, their choice in Viet Nam and Iraq is the 7.62 that we know as the 308. I have a good friend that carried a Remington Model 40 in Nam with a 6 power Redfield scope. He is among the few with a Red Chinese confirmed kill at 1000 yards. He still has the guys belt buckle for proof. He can also tell you stories about being put on ridges during sweeps only to have the VC come out of the valleys and over run their positons due to lack of firepower. If I were to chose one caliber for sniping, it would be the 7.62.
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Old May 28, 2007, 09:08 PM   #21
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The best for general purposes? .308 Win by far. The best all around (1000m +), the .338. Get a .308 first and then when you move up to the big leagues go .338.
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Old May 28, 2007, 09:12 PM   #22
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Small bore, any of the modern 6.5 offerings like the 260 Rem AI or 6.5x284, altho hand loading the 6.5x55 is a valid option.

Medium bore, 338 Lapua Mag, 338 RUM, 340 Weatherby. They all work, but the Lapua has the most commercial rifles and ammunition available.

Big Bore, 416 Barrett, 408 Cheytac, wildcat 375-408. These are ALL freaking expensive, not a price break on the 50 BMG at all.

These are my choices for "best", but only in the hands of the best shooters. For a beginner a 308 should be the first choice because of the wealth of rifles, quality ammo with ballistics data. Precision shooting is an expensive hobby, and the 308 is about the cheapest way to get into it. For longer ranges a 300 WSM or 300 Win Mag is a good choice.

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Old May 28, 2007, 09:24 PM   #23
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The .300 Winchester Magnum and .338 Lapua are also top-of-the-line choices.
He speaks the truth. For anti-personnel, those are about the best you can get.

.50 bmg has it's place, i.e. armored targets and/or very long ranges.

.308 is very good at what it does and performs exceptionally in that role, but for serious long range work there are better choices.
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Old May 28, 2007, 09:36 PM   #24
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Federal .308 168gr Matchkings!!
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Old May 28, 2007, 11:15 PM   #25
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I did not vote.
It really depends on the maximum range your going to be working and what your shooting at. .308 is pretty good to moderate range but a 30.06 will out shoot it at 800 + yards. A .300 win mag will shoot way out there. I've been around a few guys that do extreme range work at 1000 meters + and they all use hand loads that were tailored to each rifle. For me the best would be the one that gives me a five shot group starting with a cold barrel that only makes one hole in the X ring. I'm still looking for that rifle.
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