Va. Tells NYC to Stop Gun Stings

oystermick · May 10, 2007, 08:47 PM

Perhaps Bloomberg should set up border crossings and strip-search people before allowing them into NYC. That might solve his city's problem.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

WeedWacker · May 11, 2007, 02:25 PM

One thing I see and I kinda agree with was the agents made it completely obvious that the one paying for it was not the one to be registerd or marked as owning it. This is against the law, no matter how much we feel about it as law abiding citizens we should abide by it. I belive as well that the person making the sale should have also been aware of the state laws on firearms transactions. Unless for somereasons they were breaking a law from NY that was not applicable in VA there is every indication that they are to be prosecuted. Not nesessarily the job of NY but that of VA to enforec its own laws. I do believe that Bloomberg needs to stay in his own state let alone his city (which is probably how he veiws it)

Mannlicher · May 11, 2007, 06:24 PM

its a Federal issue, not a task for New York City.

They should clean up their own back yard first though.

JR47 · May 12, 2007, 08:57 AM

If the investigators had legal authority to conduct such operations is one thing. However, they were acting as private citizens. This means that they taped themselves committing a federal felony, with intention. They should be prosecuted as such. Bloomberg has also taken a strong stand against what he refers to as "vigilantism" in New York City. However, his operatives are practicing just that, as he defines it.

I am also aware that the operatives acted as a "couple" during the entire episode, so there must have been some communication involved between them. Somehow, I find it hard to believe that the second person could just suddenly appear and fill out the paperwork, yet not arouse suspicion. As is usual, an attornies description of an action is normally quite different than that of the participants.

It would also be difficult for the operatives to have purchased handguns without false documents in other states, another felonious violation on the form 4473.:barf:

tony pasley · May 12, 2007, 05:52 PM

Bloomberg and all involved committed several federal and state crimes, Admitted on T.V., radio, and print, but no charges filed.

Tom2 · May 12, 2007, 08:45 PM

Looks to me like the best mayor of NYC is gone.

alligator94 · May 15, 2007, 07:41 PM

"Looks to me like the best mayor of NYC is gone."

And that would be??

May 10, 2007, 08:47 PM	#1
oystermick Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2004 Posts: 197	Va. Tells NYC to Stop Gun Stings Perhaps Bloomberg should set up border crossings and strip-search people before allowing them into NYC. That might solve his city's problem. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews __________________ "Americans have the right and advantage of being armed- unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." - James Madison Last edited by oystermick; May 10, 2007 at 10:03 PM.

May 11, 2007, 02:25 PM	#2
WeedWacker Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2006 Location: Body: Clarkston, Washington. Soul: LaCrosse, Wisconsin Posts: 1,458	One thing I see and I kinda agree with was the agents made it completely obvious that the one paying for it was not the one to be registerd or marked as owning it. This is against the law, no matter how much we feel about it as law abiding citizens we should abide by it. I belive as well that the person making the sale should have also been aware of the state laws on firearms transactions. Unless for somereasons they were breaking a law from NY that was not applicable in VA there is every indication that they are to be prosecuted. Not nesessarily the job of NY but that of VA to enforec its own laws. I do believe that Bloomberg needs to stay in his own state let alone his city (which is probably how he veiws it) __________________ - Weed 9mm vs 45 ACP? The answer is 42.

May 11, 2007, 06:24 PM	#3
Mannlicher Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2001 Location: North Central Florida Posts: 2,933	its a Federal issue, not a task for New York City. They should clean up their own back yard first though. __________________ Nemo Me Impune Lacesset "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.".........Ronald Reagan

May 12, 2007, 08:57 AM	#4
JR47 Junior member Join Date: August 9, 2005 Location: North Georgia Posts: 2,228	If the investigators had legal authority to conduct such operations is one thing. However, they were acting as private citizens. This means that they taped themselves committing a federal felony, with intention. They should be prosecuted as such. Bloomberg has also taken a strong stand against what he refers to as "vigilantism" in New York City. However, his operatives are practicing just that, as he defines it. I am also aware that the operatives acted as a "couple" during the entire episode, so there must have been some communication involved between them. Somehow, I find it hard to believe that the second person could just suddenly appear and fill out the paperwork, yet not arouse suspicion. As is usual, an attornies description of an action is normally quite different than that of the participants. It would also be difficult for the operatives to have purchased handguns without false documents in other states, another felonious violation on the form 4473.:barf:

May 12, 2007, 05:52 PM	#5
tony pasley Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2006 Location: western north carolina Posts: 1,266	Bloomberg and all involved committed several federal and state crimes, Admitted on T.V., radio, and print, but no charges filed.

May 12, 2007, 08:45 PM	#6
Tom2 Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,644	Looks to me like the best mayor of NYC is gone.

May 15, 2007, 07:41 PM	#7
alligator94 Member Join Date: May 15, 2007 Posts: 28	"Looks to me like the best mayor of NYC is gone." And that would be??