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Old April 18, 2007, 06:31 PM   #26
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Ruger M77

I use Ruger M77 in 220 swift.
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Old April 18, 2007, 07:21 PM   #27
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Afterall, I only take a few shots. Most of the hunt is walking, glassing and sitting.
All of the ghog hunting I do is sitting. Glass for all the holes then setup at a spot that gives you a shot at most of them. Sit down in my folding chair and wait. My .22-250Rem gives me great range.
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Old April 19, 2007, 08:13 AM   #28
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My buddy and I were looking at Rock River Arms and some of the rifles they offer. I know I wasn't planning on looking at a .223 but has anyone seen some of the varmint rifles? WOW! Take a look at these and let me know what you think. Obviously I'd have to start stashing away some cash now so I can get it.

http://www.rockriverarms.com/item-de...TOKEN=27928891

http://www.rockriverarms.com/item-de...TOKEN=27928891

http://www.rockriverarms.com/item-de...TOKEN=27928891

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Old April 19, 2007, 10:42 AM   #29
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DCougar, $1,065 + scope? I think I'll stay with my 77 Mk II, thank you very much. 1/2 MOA with all sorts of different ammo. It just doesn't care what you feed it, from 50 grains to round-nose 70s. I bought it used, "sorta like new". It shot the 1/2 MOA with a Tasco, although it now wears a Leupold 3x9. It worked real good on prairie dogs, last year, to 300 yards; going again in a few weeks.

Rifle, scope, Timney trigger all added up to around $650 or so.

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Old April 19, 2007, 11:04 AM   #30
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Really? ART, you're putting me to shame over here
Would you happen to have a picture of your MK or any sites to visit?
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Old April 19, 2007, 11:31 AM   #31
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Barrett M82A1A "light 50" .50 caliber rifle. that'll do it up to 1.3 mile range... haha

I've never hunted groundhog, but it seems to me a .223 would do it. I saw a real real nice .223 rifle in the gunshop the other day, had no markings I could see, but had what looked like an 8 power scope, with 3 5 round magazines, and the 2 extra were in the stock. came with bipod and everything. I almost bought it, and am trying to get some info on the rifle... no luck so far.
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Old April 20, 2007, 09:21 AM   #32
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A .50 cal? That would be like using a .308 to shoot a mouse! ha ha

Let me know about that rifle .45Reaper, I'd be interested in seeing a picture or something.
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Old April 20, 2007, 10:57 AM   #33
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DCougar, maybe the Ruger website might have a picture. It's just an old blue/wood bolt-action, is all. A gazillion like it.

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Old April 21, 2007, 03:51 PM   #34
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Marlin 982vs

worth all 325$. And probably another 350$

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...num/982VS.aspx
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Old April 21, 2007, 07:20 PM   #35
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I have a .22-250 in a Browning Model 1885 Low wall. I reload for it, using 52gr HPBT Sierra bullets. My best shot so far is 315 yards on a ground squirrel.
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Old April 21, 2007, 07:39 PM   #36
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I'm thinking this is gonna be my next "whistle pig" rifle...

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Old April 21, 2007, 09:47 PM   #37
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any reccomendations on rifle that has as much range as possible, that would work on racoon, fox, ground hog and maybe coyote? like as if you wanted to save the pelts.
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Old April 21, 2007, 10:04 PM   #38
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What kind of ranges are we talking about? .243 with 55 gr nosler balistics will fold a yote real quick without blowing out the hide too much. Or step it up to 95 gr Sierra FMJ/BT's for clean pass-through with two little holes instead of one moderate one.
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Old April 22, 2007, 09:51 AM   #39
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Most of my ranges aren't going to be any further then 100yds. There are just a few of those long shots where you can't get close and need a good bullet to get out there, if that makes sense.
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Old April 22, 2007, 10:33 AM   #40
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Same as the reply before this one. 55 gr. noslers will spread a prairie dog farr and wide! I use the 95 gr. Sierra FMJ/BT's on my 1000 yd range. So I can guarantee those will get you that far. Of course, SEEING a prairie dog at that range might be a bit of a challenge.
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Old April 23, 2007, 02:04 PM   #41
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Yea, good luck seeing the piggy at 1k yds. Geez, I thought I was nuts, ha ha. Better have one heck of a scope too. I think my biggest problem though is learning how to calculate how the bullet will travel. i.e. distance, windage and drop. Any tips or suggestions?
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Old April 23, 2007, 02:10 PM   #42
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I always lick my finger, but it never helps. You might want to consult a bullet drop trajectory table.

http://www.6mmbr.com/223Rem.html

At the bottom of the page I have linked there is a wind drift by yardage chart. It's a fair starting place.
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Old April 23, 2007, 04:37 PM   #43
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Let me ask this, if you had one rifle choise for groundhog hunting, what would you choose?
My next varmint gun will be a Remington M700 VSF in .223. Varmint rifles should be heavy barreled bolt actions with big glass on them.
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Old April 23, 2007, 05:33 PM   #44
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Yea, good luck seeing the piggy at 1k yds. Geez, I thought I was nuts, ha ha.
Awe, c'mon... I hit a playing card at that range--that's quite a bit smaller than a prairie dog! Of course, I doubt a prairie dog would have sat still through the 8 rds. it took to do it... But it would be a shot worth bragging about on a 'whistle piggy'.
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Old April 25, 2007, 02:39 PM   #45
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Funny enough, we were shooting at a piggy last year who refused to move. We shot off about 8 rounds before he decided to move along. I was ashamed of myself for not being able to make a shot like that at 200yds. That's why I'm looking for a nice rifle in a good cailber.
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Old April 26, 2007, 11:42 AM   #46
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The heavy barrel idea is good when many shots are taken in a short period of time. Rather pointless on a rifle intended mostly for coyotes or groundhogs, with the usual shot or two and then you're through shooting for a while. Fine at a prairie dog town.

Lotsa scope is good, for those Ma Bell shots on small critters like prairie dogs. Personal opinion is that around 400 yards is about the practical limit for 9X, based on my one prairie dog shoot. Higher magnification helps when you're competing with yourself or your buddy about getting one "way, way out there". Less necessary for coyotes, though.

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Old April 26, 2007, 11:54 AM   #47
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+10 on optics for distance. It doesn't matter how capable the rifle is if you can't see your target clearly. A little blond spot half hidden behind your crosshairs is going to make the shot real difficult under the best of circumstances. Don't skimp on that part.
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Old April 26, 2007, 12:37 PM   #48
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You guys are absolutely right on optics. I've got a pretty descent scope right now with a diamond reticle. I have no idea who makes the scope though. If I knew how to take the picture and put it on here I would.
Just for fun though, hows this. Let's build a rifle for groundhog. I'm starting to get in the market for a new one and I've seen some good suggestions from everyone here. So how about we build one from scratch?

So where should we start?
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Old April 26, 2007, 01:14 PM   #49
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With the caliber. It has to be small, fast, and flat. There's nothing better than a "lead laser". MY votes in order are .243 (6mm platform--just because that's my baby), .22-250. These are from a perspective of range and velocity. If we're building the ultimate varmint rifle, I want those little buggers to feel the effects at 500+.
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Old April 26, 2007, 10:09 PM   #50
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22-250 is "THE ONE".

Winchester JHP , 4000 fps. or Winchester Silver Tips, I think about 3800 fps.

Mine launch from a Savage bolt : model 11.

The 22-250 is definitely louder than .223, but just my opinion I think is considerably more accurate.
Could just be me. I wasn't real familiar with the .223 I was shooting. Had a lot of practice with the Savage though.
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