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Old April 7, 2007, 11:22 AM   #1
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Question about shooting 9x23 in a EAA/Tanfoglio Witness .38 super

I know it can be done and evidently a lot of people do it safely, but my question is, since the .38 super is a semi-rimmed round, and 9x23 rimless, I take it that this could lead to jamming if the extractor doesn't get a good grip and slips off and fails to eject? Does this happen, and is there a way to adjust the extractor a bit to accomodate?
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Old April 7, 2007, 05:13 PM   #2
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You can tune the extractor for the rimless cartridges, but from the guys I've talked to that run .38supercomp brass (which I'm swapping to for my Elite Match), there is no adjustment necessary. The guns just run, whether it's semi-rimmed or rimless.
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Old April 7, 2007, 06:50 PM   #3
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OK, thanks; sounds good! Is supercomp brass as thick at the web as 9x23 brass?
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Old April 7, 2007, 10:09 PM   #4
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Nope

9x23 is considerably thicker. I've got a few sectioned cases around here somewhere. I never had any problems with 9x23 or 38SC out of the Witness (no mods needed). If you plan on doing bad things (nuclear loads), I'd pick up some 9x23 brass.

BTW, Lee Deluxe 9x19 dies seem to work perfectly for reloading 9x23. reloaded rounds come in exactly at the tight end of the 9x23 spec.

In theory you could get a 9x19 extractor for the Witness (should drop right in). It wouldn't surprise me if the 38SA extractor is really just a 9x19 extractor anyways.
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Old April 8, 2007, 07:34 PM   #5
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OK, thanks. Which is a better/cheaper route, do you think, to 9x23 - Witness Elite Gold Team, or custom SVI 1911 2-stack 1911?
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Old April 8, 2007, 10:51 PM   #6
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I didn't answer clearly before

You probably won't need to modify the extractor in a Witness. They seem to run fine as is with the rimless 9x23 or 38SC.

As far as which is cheaper, if you're buying either of those guns, are you really concerned with price?

I have no idea which one is better, they are both pretty neat pistols.
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