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Old March 21, 2007, 07:50 PM   #26
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He shot the pig trough brush. If he was able to direct the pellet through all those limbs and hit any then it should go down as one of the best shots is history.

But it seems as though the pig was facing him squarely. That would make an eye shot to the brain impossible. The more I think of it the more convinced I am that this video is a complete fraud.
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Old March 21, 2007, 09:04 PM   #27
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That would be pretty shady for a company to do. I do think that shot could be done though. I would have to be there to see it.

Here is a vid of the ammo he used:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw9JH7rHGiA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqkFoqbplKg
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Old March 21, 2007, 09:39 PM   #28
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Not sure I buy it either. I have shot hundreds of ground squirrels and cotton tail rabbits with a 22 and many of the squirrels with CCI Stingers and never have I have one flip like those in the video. Looks like they were hit with a 223 or there abouts to me.
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Old March 21, 2007, 09:40 PM   #29
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I still do not buy the boar video. In fact, some of the other game shooting video you posted is hard to swallow too.:barf:
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Old March 21, 2007, 10:24 PM   #30
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I hear ya... but you know they weren't hit with a .223 cause they were all in one piece when they flopped in the air, lol.

here is a random airgun hunter flipping a rabbit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjI7ahm9YaY
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Old March 21, 2007, 11:00 PM   #31
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Old March 21, 2007, 11:06 PM   #32
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Stupid kids. They have to much time on their hands,... but this guy.... remote control RC air soft gun with laser sighting...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbt3_...elated&search=
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Old March 21, 2007, 11:08 PM   #33
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The last video you linked is another ad. Look at the begining. Again, I don't buy any of this. Espically the boar one.
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Old March 21, 2007, 11:19 PM   #34
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Probably, but then quite a few people list the type of firearm, and shooting distance.
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Old March 21, 2007, 11:43 PM   #35
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If it looks like dung and it smells like dung, then it probably is dung.
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Old March 21, 2007, 11:56 PM   #36
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Well I know one thing these video ads are gonna do for sure.
Guys or kids will get the idea that pellet will do far more than it possibly can and wounded animals are going to be the result.

Remember these are ads, commercials, made to get you to buy and or use the product, How many takes do you suppose it took for them to get the desired result? How many were wounded and got away? Cause's me to pause when I think of a Gamo product.
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Old March 21, 2007, 11:58 PM   #37
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Not to mention having airguns reclassified by the Feds. Anything that supposedly can kill a boar can kill a human.
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Old March 22, 2007, 12:13 AM   #38
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I agree with you, I don't think it was responsible at all. I don't think it is fair to the animal, or animals... if they used more than one. I just think its pretty wild.


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Old March 22, 2007, 01:09 AM   #39
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Many years ago I took my son to a movie. This movie took place on an island. The island had dinosaurs running around on it. The people were interacting with the creatures. A T-Rex even chomped down an attorney. It all looked so real. I had to remind myself I was watching a movie about events that never happened.

However, the dinosaurs in Jurassic park were fake. They were illusions made to trick us.

My point is that anyone with a camera and knowledge of special effects can make you see things that do not exist. That boar may have been shot and dropped with an airgun. Or like the movies, it didn't happen or at least the way they want you to think it happened.

Call me skeptical, but I ain't buying any of it.
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Old March 22, 2007, 02:20 AM   #40
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"Cause's me to pause when I think of a Gamo product."

EXACTLY rem33.

Talk about irresposible. and as another poster above me stated, its just going to have even more idiots thing their pellet gun will kill something clean when in reality it will not and will only wound them/slow death ect.

i hear enough idiots as is when in a sporting goods department talk about shooting birds and squirrels with their pellet guns.... this will only add to it.

there are some very impressive air gun SHOTGUNS available too. some of the more serious air guns shooting .22 caliber and up pellets using SCUBA tank type refills actually have some okay power. but from what i've seen even those fall drastically short from a .22lr. and a .22lr is the smallest rifle there is (basically)
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Old March 22, 2007, 05:45 AM   #41
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Gotta call b^&&^*t on that hog shot, way its head snaps back it was shot from the "hunters" left with 22cf or similar probably fmj bullet so no mess to see.
You got a 17 cal 5.4 gr aluminum alloy bullet travelling at around 1100fps by the time it gets there so 11ft lbs energy or less, fights it's way through the brush hiding the hogs head and kills it so good it snaps its head backwards ( sidewards actualy to bullet path) and its drt.
Yeah B£$%$^t again, if they need that kinda crap to sell their guns buy something else.
Got a Crossman, a RWS and a uk made Airarms, all good lotsa fun on small stuff and pretty accurate too.
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Old March 22, 2007, 05:54 AM   #42
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dang double post
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Old March 22, 2007, 08:37 AM   #43
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FWIW, I've chronoed one of the more recent Crossman .22 pump-up guns, similar to Benjamin .22 that I had as a kid. I used it to take many crows and cottontails, even a few jacks - but, as stated above, shot placement is most critical with any of 'em. With (max recommended) 8 pumps, I get right at 600 fps out of current 22 Crossman.

But, technically speaking, with some critters (such as squirrels and quail) being "game animals", not legal to take with (even powerful) airguns in some states, so check your regs ...
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Old March 22, 2007, 09:13 AM   #44
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Greybeard,

Do you still use yer Benjamin in your HSC class?
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Old March 22, 2007, 09:43 AM   #45
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Crows are tough birds to take with a pellet gun. A few times I would hear the pellet hit the bird. Then the crow would take off as if nothing happened. Every crow I've hit with a rimfire came down with a thump.
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Old March 22, 2007, 10:35 AM   #46
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What kind of rig/cal do you normaly use on the crows and such roy?
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Old March 22, 2007, 02:00 PM   #47
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I seen that on OLN or VERS, can't remember what channel, but it looked legit and was part of a hunting show not a commercial.
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Old March 22, 2007, 02:12 PM   #48
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I was talking to guys on the air rifle forums, they said it has been around for a while and that it was a skull shot. Wild and crazy stuff.
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Old March 22, 2007, 02:37 PM   #49
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Straight on skull shot on a pig, one word, impossible!
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Old March 22, 2007, 04:28 PM   #50
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If hurricane with winds traveling about 318 mph (466.5 fps) can shoot a piano wire straight through a tree, why is it so hard to believe that a metal pellet traveling at 1600 fps (1090.46 mph) can pierce a hogs skull? Im not saying its an everyday occurance... but it is definately possible.





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