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Old November 19, 2006, 01:43 PM   #1
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trespassing onto private property???

Here is the deal...

In California we only have National Forest and alot of those National forest are within private property. I guessed there are private properties within the national forest. There are time where I've spotted legal deer (very rare around here) next to private property and affraid to take a shot at him. I know he would take off and die onto the private property (again, the people who own these property hated hunters) and I would be entering their property without their permission. Then again if I go to their home and knock onto their door to let them know a deer drop deer onto their property, they'll be freaken out cause I shot their pet!

Anyone know the rule of such where a guy have to make an effort to retrieve his kill in Ca???


thanks..

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Old November 19, 2006, 05:18 PM   #2
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Al,
Sorry about your dilemma, don't know the rules for Cali. Here in Ga, you can track a wounded deer onto private or posted property, if it is legally shot with a gun or bow, and strays onto said property. It is illegal to let the animal wander off while wounded without making a reasonable effort to find it.

We have a lot of guys around who, for a fee, bring dogs to track your deer down when it is shot and runs off and you can't find it.

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Old November 19, 2006, 06:10 PM   #3
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Illegal to keep wild animals as pets in CA.
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Old November 19, 2006, 06:26 PM   #4
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Thats what I though... but there are people who go out of their way to buy grain or hay and left it on their property so they could have deer feeding onto their property. They don't have horse or cattle on the property. Of course the deer know very well they are protected on this property and come to the national forest for cover after they feed. I guessed I'll just have to waite till they come back from their feeding ground and away from the private lands..

thanks for your input..

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Old November 19, 2006, 06:36 PM   #5
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I would get between Deer and the private property if possible and use enough gun to quote Mr Ruark, so it is DRT.
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Old November 19, 2006, 10:06 PM   #6
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Best to check with the Calif. game folks. There might even be a law which says you're obligated to follow a wounded animal to wherever it finally stops. I dunno...

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Old November 19, 2006, 10:26 PM   #7
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Ask for permission to retrieve the deer from the land owner. If they refuse, that's when you bring in the CA game wardens. They will be able to get your deer for you.

They may also have something to say about their feeding of the game. Many game dep'ts frown on this due to CWD.
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Old November 19, 2006, 10:27 PM   #8
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not that the law will always make sense

In Texas, we have a law that says you MUST make every effort to retrieve an animal you have shot, that it is "an offense" to just let it lie and waste the meat.

We ALSO have a law that makes it illegal tresspass to go onto private property without the landowner's permission, even to trail a wounded game animal.

So, we have to be careful not to hunt too close to property lines, and be ready for second shots if a deer heads for the boundary line.
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Old November 20, 2006, 12:44 AM   #9
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[QUOTE][/We ALSO have a law that makes it illegal tresspass to go onto private property without the landowner's permission, even to trail a wounded game animal.QUOTE]

Same here.
You need to read your game rules booklet and/or call you fish and game dept. There will undoubtedly be different laws in different states.
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Old November 20, 2006, 12:57 AM   #10
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Mn law allows you to trespass onto private posted property for the immediate purpose of retrieving dead or wounded wild game. you must make an effort to be "direct" about it, but otherwise you are clear.
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Old November 20, 2006, 09:19 AM   #11
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Check your state rules, but in my state it's not a problem. If the game you shot legally runs onto private property, and your tracking trail leads you there, the procedure is contact the landowner if possible, tell him that you intend to go onto the land to get your game. 99% chance, he/she will say "fine". If the landowner refuses, or if you cannot find the landowner, get the game warden, and he will force the landowner to let you retrieve your game, or escort you on and off to find the game (although the GW *may* want to see your blood trail crossing the property line, proving that you shot it elsewhere).
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Old November 21, 2006, 12:26 PM   #12
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Laws for NY~

In NY you can't go on someones property even if you can see the deer from the edge. Also game wardens can't unless the owner gives them permission to... Course in NY its illegal to feed deer period, and someone said they use a dog to follow the trail! yeah, wouldn't fly here, you'd be in jail in no time... Laws are messed up in NY, we still have the assualt ban think I'm gonna end up moving before I start a family...
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Old November 21, 2006, 01:03 PM   #13
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In idaho you can get your game if it's on private property. It's a good idea to let the landowner know what you're doing, and if there is a problem we're supposed to call F&G or the sheriffs office who will then show up and monitor your finding your game.

The Kalifornia info on tresspasing is here

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/docs/06-07_Mammal_Hunting.pdf

TRESPASING: If the land you hunt on is not your own, it belongs to someone else.
Make sure you have a legal right to be there. Contact the owner or person who administers the property, and secure written permission to hunt. A hunting license does not entitle you to enter private property.
“It is unlawful to enter any lands under cultivation or enclosed by a fence, belonging to, or occupied by, another, or to enter any uncultivated or unenclosed lands, including lands temporarily inundated by waters flowing outside the established banks of a river, stream, slough, or other waterway, where signs forbidding trespass are displayed at intervals not less than three to the mile along all exterior boundaries and at all roads and trails entering such lands, for the purpose of discharging any firearm or taking or
destroying any mammal or bird, including any waterfowl, on such lands without having first obtained written permission from the owner of such lands, or his agent, or the person in lawful possession thereof. Such signs may be of any size and wording, other than the wording required for signs under Section 2017, which will fairly advise persons about to
enter the land that the use ot such land is so restricted.” (FGC 2016)
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Old November 26, 2006, 12:23 PM   #14
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Your best bet would be to call the game warden before entering someone elses property if you don't have permission. If you can't get ahold of one, call the local sheriff's office and they should be able to help you out. At least to let them know the situation before entering the land in case it does turn into a problem. If you can first get ahold of the land owner and get permission, that would be ideal. It is sometimes hard to run one down though. Most land owners are not going to have a problem, but some will.
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