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Old November 1, 2000, 11:03 AM   #1
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I am considering buying some milsurp powder, with my major interest being in the H-335, H-380, and H-110 equivalents. Does anybody have experience with ANY of the WCC powders? I'd like to hear some anecdotes before I spend what 8lbs of powder costs. Thanks....
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Old November 1, 2000, 02:33 PM   #2
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Hutch, I can't vouch for any of the WCC powders but I bought an 8# keg of the IMR-4895 from Hi-Tech Ammo http://www.zcr.com/hitech
for use in my M1 Garand (and 03A3 Springfield and Rem 700 22-250 too ) and was extremely pleased with it. Begin at a safe starting load and work up. The folks at Hi-Tech (Mr. Johnson) are great folks to deal with and by ordering by phone with a credit card the powder was at my doorstep in about 4 days. Shipping and that inferal HazMat included the stuff was right at 10 bucks a pound compared to right at 20 bucks a pound at the local shop.

(that was supposed to read infernal HazMat, not inferal )
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Old November 2, 2000, 07:31 AM   #3
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Another thumbs-up for Hi-tech from me. I did the same as SouthLA.
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Old November 4, 2000, 12:49 AM   #4
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Re mil surplus powder, when I was shooting rifles, I used WC 846 in 308 bolt guns for severalyears. Aside from the muzzle flash, and the now and then "big orange ball of fire", which I only saw once, I never had any trouble with the stuff, and it shot very accurately for 200 and 300 yard rapid fire stages, in my rifles.

As I recall, it fell between Ball C Lot 2 ands H-335 in burning rate.
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Old November 4, 2000, 11:10 PM   #5
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Hutch,
I've been using WC-820 in my M1 Carbine about two years now and I love the stuff! I find it to be a better powder than H110, AA#9 and about twice as clean burning as Winchester 296.

Just my 2 cents worth,

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Old November 5, 2000, 07:53 AM   #6
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Wow, Abe. I just assumed it WAS H110/296 (I've heard they actually are the same). Did you have any difficulty finding load data?
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Old November 5, 2000, 12:57 PM   #7
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hutch:
Did you have any difficulty finding load data?[/quote]

If you get powder from HiTech they send loading data with it.



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Old November 5, 2000, 07:47 PM   #8
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WC-820 is similar to H-110 and can be loaded using H-110 data, but WC-820 is not H-110.

The info below is from HiTech ammo supply's web site, http://www.iidbs.com/hitech

Price Per 5 lbs. Price Per 6 lbs. Price Per 8 lbs.
WC820 - (Cross reference loading data(H110)

WC844 - (Cross reference loading data H335 or Accurate #2230)
WC846 - (Cross reference loading data BL-C(2) or WIN 748)
SR7970 - (45 ACP Gov. powder)
WC680 - (Cross reference loading data WIN 680 or AA1680)

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From Jeff Bartlet's web site,
http://www.gibrass.com/gunpowder.html

Propellant Gunpowder Per Jug
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Surplus Name Load Data to Use: Price
WC Blank* .30-06 Blank ammo (use 12gr) $30 per 3# jug
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WC872 (new) Hodgdon H-870 or AA8700 $40 per 8# jug
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WC860 PD (pulldown) Hodgdon H-870 or AA8700 $40 per 8# jug
IMR5010 PD (pulldown) IMR5010 $32 per 8# jug
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WC852 (new) (Slow Lot) Use IMR4831 $56 per 8# jug
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WC852f (pulldown) (Fast Lot) Use Hodgdon H-380 $64 per 8# jug
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WC846 (new) Hodgdon BL-C(2) $72 per 8# jug
WC846 PD (pulldown) Hodgdon BL-C(2) $64 per 8# jug
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WC844 (new) Hodgdon H-335 $72 per 8# jug
WC844 PD (pulldown) Hodgdon H-335 $64 per 8# jug
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WC680 (new) Use Win 680 or AA1680 $56 per 8# jug
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WC820 (new) Hodgdon H-110 $56 per 8# jug
WC820 PD (pulldown) Hodgdon H-110 $48 per 8# jug
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IMR4895 PD (pulldown) Use IMR4895 $64 per 8# jug
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IMR4895 (new) Use IMR4064 data, (1995 production) $90 per 8# jug
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IMR4475 (pulldown) Use IMR3031 data $72 per 8# jug
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IMR8208 (pulldown) Hodgdon H-322 data $80 per 8# jug
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PSA (new) Chinese, Use IMR3031 data $56 per 8# jug
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#102* (new) Use AA #2 data $48 per 6# jug
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#105 (new) Use AA #5 data $64 per 8# jug
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#107 (new) Use AA #7 data $56 per 7# jug
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AL-8* (new) Use Alcan AL-8 or Blue Dot data $48 per 6# jug
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NM-04* (new) Use Bullseye $40 per 5# jug
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NM-13* (new) Use IMR700X $40 per 5# jug



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Old June 4, 2005, 07:31 AM   #9
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I Love These Powders. 4895/wc820/wc844/wc846/wc852f/wc852m/wc852s/wc860/and 5010. Typically On The Jug Is A Powder That It Matches So You Can Start Low And Work Up. The Wc860 Has A Burn Rate Like Wet Sand But It Works Well With Lead Bullets. I Wish I Could Find Some More Of The Wc852s Cause I Have Lots Of Cartridges Worked Up With That Powder. Good Luck.
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Old June 4, 2005, 01:14 PM   #10
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Recently sold lots of WC 820 match AA 9 in burning rate. Apparently some earlier lots were H-110 burning rate. I also ran into a lot of WC 846 much faster than the advertised Bl-C(2) burning rate, at least as fast as H-335.

I use milsurp powder almost exclusively, but you absolutely have to start low, work up, and use a chronograph to track what you are getting
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